Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?]

[William Wrightman <williamwrightman@xxxxxxxxx>]

--- On Mon, 9/26/11, Mike Perry <mikeperry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Mike Perry <mikeperry@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Fw: Hotmail with Tor [is their a solution!?]
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Monday, September 26, 2011, 5:18 PM
> Thus spake William Wrightman (williamwrightman@xxxxxxxxx):
> 
> > I just checked today and it's still not possible to
> use Tor with
> > Hotmail.
> > 
> > Does anyone (Andrew, Roger, Mike, etc) know why this
> is happening?
> > 
> > I realise we cannot expect immediate solutions but I
> would like to
> > know what the problem is even if there is no immediate
> work-around.
> 
> We cannot safely fix this issue for Torbutton. You must use
> Tor
> Browser to access hotmail safely.
> 
> See https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3580
> for details
> on how to use hotmail with Torbutton unsafely, if you
> insist on using
> Torbutton with regular Firefox.
> 
> Otherwise, download Tor Browser:
> https://www.torproject.org/projects/torbrowser
> 
> 

Thank you for this advice.

My questions are:

1.	An individual is using Tor, NoScript, HTTPS-Everywhere, Better Privacy, and has no Java, with Flash disabled, and then securely deletes his places.sqlite, cookies.sqlite, etc, files after each session finishes.  Forgive the stupid question but in this case why would TorButton actually be required (for any website)?

2.	This is also probably a dumb question.  In the https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/3580 ioerror wrote:

"Perhaps it would be useful to email the Hotmail security team and let them know that this isn't going to work very well for people who need security and privacy through anonymity?"

Is this something that would ever be done or considered worthwhile?  Do owners / operators of websites like Hotmail for example care what you have to say or do you just assume they will ignore you so do not bother to contact them?	

Thanks again!

> -- 
> Mike Perry
> Mad Computer Scientist
> fscked.org evil labs
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