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Re: [Toredu-announce] [Tor-edu] About Tor relay and getting a grant



Okay well there are two options here, asking permission or asking forgiveness, but if you want to have operate a Tor relay you will need a publicly routed IP address which will almost certainly mean asking permission. You can run a snowflake proxy from behind a NAT (i.e. from inside an internal network at school with no publicly facing IP address.)  You could definitely go the asking forgiveness route for this option. For hardware you could start with an old computer you aren't using any more, or a modern raspberry pi, anything you can install linux and run docker on.

Introduction to snowflake: https://snowflake.torproject.org/

Happy to answer any more questions you have, cheers and good luck!

                       
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From: justsuave2
Sent: Monday, January 29, 2024 6:20 PM
To: Cooper Quintin
Subject: Re: [Tor-edu] About Tor relay and getting a grant

Its all good! They said they can't spare any computers or hardware for this. I am unsure if they are against running tor in the network. I am interested in the snowflake proxy as well if you can give me guidance on how to set up. I just want to help others have a free and open internet :D 





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On Monday, January 29th, 2024 at 1:53 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq@xxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi Aaron,
I"m so sorry I didn't respond to this sooner! I totally forgot about it after my vacation until just now going through my email backlog. If you don't mind I would rather keep the conversation on email since we have a few people helping guide this project who can all give you advice (cc'ed here on the tor-edu list).

You said that your dean of science doesn't want to give over any computers to running a tor relay. Is their main objection just that they can't spare the hardware or are they also against running a tor relay on their network at all? If its the latter you could set up a raspberry pi or some other small computer running a bridge or a snowflake proxy, that would still be super useful and would be pretty unobtrusive.

                       
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From: justsuave2
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 4:46 PM
To: Cooper Quintin
Subject: Re: [Tor-edu] About Tor relay and getting a grant

Sounds Good! Enjoy your break! I hope to speak with you soon

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On Friday, December 15th, 2023 at 7:44 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Aaron,
I am about to be gone for the rest of the year on holidays so I will pick up this conversation at the beginning of next year. Happy holidays!


                       
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From: justsuave2
Sent: Friday, December 15, 2023 3:29 PM
To: Cooper Quintin
Subject: Re: [Tor-edu] About Tor relay and getting a grant

Greetings Cooper 

First off wow it is such an honor speaking to an EFF member. This feels like a dream come true! I currently go to the New York Institute of Technology. The dean of Science doesn't want to hand over one computer for the tor relay. I would love to get your signal number so I can discuss in detail what the next best steps are and I have a much faster respond time on signal. Thank you for your response!  

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On Friday, December 15th, 2023 at 6:06 PM, Cooper Quintin <cooperq@xxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi Aaron,
To second what Roger said, I'm so glad you are interested in participating in the challenge!  I would love to know what university you are at. That said, really any computer will do! If anyone has an old laptop or raspberry pi even sitting around gathering dust that's all you need to run a relay! Let us know if there are other ways we can help!


                       
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From: Tor-edu <tor-edu-bounces+cooperq=eff.org@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> on behalf of Roger Dingledine <arma@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2023 12:29 PM
To: justsuave2 <thomasaaron3@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: tor-edu@xxxxxxx <tor-edu@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Tor-edu] About Tor relay and getting a grant
 
On Sat, Dec 09, 2023 at 05:02:28AM +0000, justsuave2 wrote:
> Good evening EFF 
>
> I heard about your Tor challenge and I wanted to get my college involved by running a tor relay at my school however the head of the computer science dep said they "need a reason to give us a spare computer." My computer science professor was wondering if there was a grant in this challenge. Is this the case and if not, how can I get a tor relay running at my school? I really want to be apart of helping for a more free and private internet 
> Thank you 
> Aaron Thomas 

Hi Aaron! Thanks for contacting us.

There isn't a grant program for relay hardware, alas.

Which school is this?

I wonder if there is some sort of computer security club at your
school? Maybe somebody connected to that group has a spare computer,
or has one of those tiny hip 'computers' like a raspberry pi that they
want to experiment with? Or, maybe there is somebody with an existing
computer for some other service, and it is running a modern operating
system like linux, where you could get an account and install a Tor
relay as one of the services it offers?

Do you have a sense of how much bandwidth you would be able to provide,
once you find a suitable computer for the relay?

Depending on where in the world you are, I bet there are plenty of
people or companies getting rid of what they call "old" computers, and
(unless you're trying to run some of the biggest Tor relays in the world),
Tor relays can run just fine on hardware from several years ago.

--Roger

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