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[school-core] Re: Software categories
Well said. Really. Now what? Justin's put a hell of a lot of time
into the various Linux versions, I think, and has done it well. Shall
we start by just adding BSD and UNIX?
We will have to decide a direction. Since Justin's added the flavors
of Unix for the sake of SEO, a good argument, we can keep them. But
where are we going, toward more or less in the future? We'll need
that decision in our pockets so that we can decide when faced with
more flavors of a particular distributioin.
Thanks for the clear thinking, Laura.
David
On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 7:42 PM, LM <lmemsm@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Wed, Nov 16, 2011 at 1:54 AM, David Bucknell <david@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>>
>> ***Yeah, and as much as I love Debian (and ubuntu) and avidly used Red
>> Hat and all its friends before, there are plenty of Slackware and
>> Gentoo folks out there. We _could_ strive to be absolutely
>> comprehensive, in which case we should add everything we find
>> including BSD. (How do you list Unix these days? I used to us HP
>> Unix, but that's it.) How many cool little icons can we have, Justin?
>
>
> If it works on one version of Linux, a piece of software pretty much works
> on other versions. I don't think it's necessary to specify
> specific distributions such as Debian, Red Hat, Gentoo, Slackware, etc.
> Justin mentioned the only reason he listed so many at the site is for SEO.
> On the other hand, if a FreeBSD or NetBSD or OpenBSD or PC-BSD or other type
> of BSD user is looking for software, there's currently no way for them to
> search the site easily. If it works on Linux or Mac OSX, it may work on a
> BSD system. Then again, it may not. I realize there are several
> alternative operating systems and we can't list every one, but BSD is an
> important and highly stable system for servers and in my opinion, one of the
> best systems as far as responsiveness and efficiency for low resource
> machines. So, it's great for schools that can't afford the latest
> technology or just want a stable server to set up and forget about. I feel
> it would be useful for any of the users of the various BSD systems if we
> could let them know what was available in education for their systems.
>
> As to UNIX, I guess I was thinking Sun Solaris, HP, AIX, SGI IRIX, basically
> any of the Unix compatible operating systems usually used as servers, but
> definitely not Linux or BSD. These machines are often even more limited as
> to what software runs on them. Some programs that work fine on Linux or BSD
> will not work on them. However, these types of machines are popular for
> businesses and certain schools as servers. It would be nice if a sysadmin
> or someone who's doing the work of a sysadmin with one of these systems
> could easily find useable software for it. Usually, the web applications
> like Apache are popular. However, we have some DBAs here that are handling
> our educational data warehouse database on AIX and I think they'd be
> thrilled at this point just to have a decent editor program that would work
> in console mode.
>
> As I mentioned, there are several other operating systems, DOS/FreeDOS,
> Reactos, Syllable, Haiku, AROS, Plan 9, Minix, etc. I realize it's
> difficult to cover them all and we need to draw the line somewhere.
> However, I do think BSD and UNIX systems are sufficiently used that they
> warrant their own categories and their requirements are sufficiently
> different that we can't just go tell users to go look up another UNIX-like
> system like Linux or Mac OS X and whatever they find will work on their
> systems. What works on BSD will usually work on Mac OS X, but the reverse
> is often not true.
>
> Going by what operating system categories I typically see in the statistics
> at my own web site, the most common or popular are usually Windows, mobile
> devices, Linux, Mac, BSD and occasionally Unix users. I think if we have
> content/categories for BSD and Unix users, if they're not currently
> frequenting the schoolforge site now, adding it and letting them know about
> it, should allow us to reach and assist more people.
>
> Sincerely,
> Laura
>
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