Hi all, (reply to various)
>I see this Learning Technology Standards track as converging with the
>Social Sofware thread, what is your opinion?
If we regard learning as a social (constructionist) process which
may be enhanced with technology, this convergence seems to make
sense up to a point.
>My concern is how to introduce the important questions of "learning
>technology standards" in this discussion? If we want to create
>conditions and an economy for sharing, interoperate and re-use of
free
>and open learning objects we need those standards.
Social software comes with standards of its own, often built on
more general standards which preceded the term ( e.g. RSS, Atom,
RDF, ...) and new proposals are emerging all the time (e.g. FOAF,
XMP, ...).
If not existing already, in a quick reference form for people
interested in learning technology, it might be useful to document
the standards that may apply? Possibly just a table of names/
acronyms, a short description, and URL to the standard's home page?
Perhaps a Wikipedia entry stemming from this page: http://
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-learning ?
In addition to the obvious (somewhat heavy) standards relating to
education such as SCORM, IMS, etc. the table may include others of
relevance/interest such as RSS, Atom, RDF, XMPP, XMP, DAML+OIL,
FOAF, ....
Such documentation may enrich the discussion and be a useful
reference.
However, there is a danger of getting "bogged down" in standards.
An exciting technology enhanced, learning environment (e.g. in a
classroom) can be created with a collection of Desktop tools (e.g.
a web browser and editor such as Mozilla (or Firefox + NVU or
eXe :-), the GIMP, and tools for rip/mix/burn ...), a cell phone
maybe, ... (i.e. without all of these being integrated into a
standards compliant LMS). Results may be shared via a URL,
adapted and re-used where appropriate, with XHTML being the main
standard of interest.
A feature I would like to see is one which assists educators and
learners in "rip and mix" or "copy-paste" activities to manage
correct use of the mixed resources - making it *very easy* to
ensure that the content being used and created is released under an
appropriate license. The choice to use only "free knowledge" might
simplify things.
Kim
PS (just thinking)
Imagine a learning scenario in which a collection of learners
collaborate to produce a multi-media collage to describe/explain a
process (e.g. the water cycle in an ecosystem which includes
natural and human built environments) - or better still,
collectively make some management decisions. The supporting
technology could provide facilities for: instant messaging, chat,
internet (video or text) conferencing, p2p file sharing, search
(e.g. semantic blog searches, of LORs, image, audio and video clip
repositories, spatial resources (maps), audio, etc.), VoIP, rip/mix/
burn facilities, mind-mapping, etc.
Many standards apply in that last paragraph from TCP/IP to
ontologies. There are communities behind these already. Learning
requires access to all sorts of resources - including people, and
it is arguably this interaction among people that really counts.
What are the best practices?
PPS Fle3 was in mind when talking about technology enhanced
learning environment (computer supported collaborative
learning :-). In limited bandwidth environments typical of Africa,
connections may go no further than the server in the lab. with
snapshots of Wikipedia and other resources.
PPPS Regarding the diagram:
I don't know if there is consensus on the details of the diagram. I
just like it as a map for speculating on the future of the web,
with implications for the social/technology aspects of learning and
knowledge sharing, etc..
>>>claude.martin@xxxxxxxxx 10/11/05 9:38 pm >>>
Hi Tony and all,
thanks to Kim for the link and to Nova Spivack for the mindmapping
graphic
This is great as a general representation of the situation
But since this "Social Software" thread started I'm feeling
unconfortable somewhere
Sure this category has a perfect place in "floss application in
education and training" this is evident...
My concern is how to introduce the important questions of "learning
technology standards" in this discussion? If we want to create
conditions and an economy for sharing, interoperate and re-use of free
and open learning objects we need those standards.
The IMS Learning Design specification
(http://www.imsglobal.org/learningdesign/index.html) allows the design
of "Units of Learning" including possible use of social software.
Until now tools available to implement standards as Reload Learning
Design Editor and Reload Learning Design Player
(http://www.reload.ac.uk/tools.html) are a first step to allow an easy
implementation, but it's still something "difficult".
A new generation of tools is emerging as our Wayne's famous eXe
(http://eduforge.org/projects/exe/), LAMS
(http://www.lamsfoundation.org/index.html) and Collage
(http://ulises.tel.uva.es/collage/) to make the implementation of
those standards easier to the users.
I see this Learning Technology Standards track as converging with the
Social Sofware thread, what is your opinion?
2005/10/11, Tony Bailetti <bailetti@xxxxxxxx>:
>
>Thanks a lot Kim.
>
>The diagram you sent is an interesting way to position social
software.
>
>How strongly do people agree with the taxonomy illustrated in the
diagram?
>Do you have a feel for the extent of agreement?
>
>Tony
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Kim Tucker
>To: bailetti@xxxxxxxx ;
>ELEARN-OPENSOURCE@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2005 1:21 PM
>Subject: Re: [IIEP] Answers to questions on social
software...anyadditional
>comments?
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>Hi all,
>
>This diagram partly inspired the Free Knowledge Communities
initiative
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>http://novaspivack.typepad.com/nova_spivacks_weblog/metaweb_graph.GIF
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>Hope you find it interesting and inspiring too :-).
>
>K
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>Hello all. Do we have more comments, questions or answers to
questions on
>social software? If you do, please provide them.
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>Contributions on social software to date have dealt mainly with
definitions,
>examples, and adoption issues. David Jones' posted the following
summary:
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>"In summary,
>- I think adoption of social software will require further changes
in the
>practice of academics.
>- I also believe there will be another hurdle to be overcome. Many
>Universities have established organisational units responsible for
>supporting systems like Blackboard. Some of these units will
fight the move
>to the next generation of systems.
>- Some people will try to adapt social software into their current
practice.
> There will be some benefit to this, but not a lot.
>- A small group of people will adapt current practice to fit the
features of
>social software. Some will have problems and some will generate real
>advantages."
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>Please let us know your thoughts on the nine questions on social
software.
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>Thanks
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>Tony
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>QUESTIONS ON SOCIAL SOFTWARE
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>1.What would you like to know about social software?
>2.What FLOSS equivalents of social software have members of this
forum been
>using to support e-learning?
>3.Are their any examples of unique or innovative applications of
social
>software that participants would like to share with members of
this list?
>4.Taking the challenges of connectivity in developing society
contexts into
>account, how can the poorest of the poor benefit from what social
software
>has to offer?
>5.What should we be doing to promote and support the application
of social
>software in e-learning?
>6.How can social software tools (weblogs, wikis, knowledge
building tools,
>image sharing tools) be used effectively in formal educational
programs?
>7.How can social software (weblogs, wikis, knowledge building
tools, image
>sharing tools) be used effectively in community development projects?
>8.How can we use social software in a local area network setting?
>9.Are there any ideas for new and creative ways in which social
software can
>be used in developing society and industrialised learning
contexts? In other
>words, ways that have not been used in the past.
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