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Re: [school-discuss] bootable CDs?

Hey Marilyn,

Definately see tons of potential in livecd's and not just for educational stuff.  I'm currently creating a livecd openvpn cd for secure remote access to the community college I'm working at part time.

On 9/29/06, marilyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <marilyn@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Does anyone else see the potential in bootable CDs?

I used them the moment I discovered them back in 2003.  I was teaching
keyboarding and Knoppix 3.2 had a copy of LyX on it.  The students used LyX to
write reports for their other classes.  I sent a Knoppix CD home with every kid
at the end of the term.

And have you had any feedback since then as to what those CD's ended up doing?

Since then I've kept up with Knoppix and frequently have used it as my primary
OS, using my hard disk just for storage.  Since my technical expertise is not
at the level of most of you on this list (music teacher . . . yesterday I spent
the day playing "Hot Cross Buns" on recorders all day), I appreciate that
Knoppix usually sees my hardware and networks easily.  It's much less
complicated then messing with an installation.


Last Spring someone from the schoolforge list sent out a link to Frozen Tech's
Live CD List.  http://www.frozentech.com/content/livecd.php

Haven't seen that list....I'll probably check it out in the near future.

Wow!  That was like Christmas!  I had no idea there were so many flavors!


I found two I liked for school use right away.  I use Kanotix to print out
posters, but the most important for me is Musix.

I'm definately going to have to get Musix and check it out.

For the past two years I have been teaching music at an intermediate school.
Musix is a bootable music studio.  I boot from the Musix CD, it sees the sound
card and presto - I've got sequencers, synthesizers, music notation editors,
drum machines, a music theory game and even a guitar tuner.  I have permission
from my system administrator to use bootables so next week I am taking all of
my music classes to the lab to run Musix.  We will play the music game, play
with the drum machine, and write a recorder song using only five notes.

Sounds great!

Couldn't we have a bootable CD for each subject area - math, science, writing,
art?  A teacher can use bootables without the district adopting a new OS.

Of course we can...it's just a matter of putting the resources into it.

We will be using Samba Network Neighborhood to save our work on district

That seems reasonable.

Of course you all know about Freeduc.  I use that with my little kids at home.

I am giving a presentation on bootable CDs at our local TCEA conference on
10/28.  It will be interesting to see if anyone attends!


Ok, notes about some experiences with livecd's...I've messed with a lot of them....currently Damn Small Linux (damnsmalllinux.org) and Puppy Linux (puppylinux.org) are my favorites.  However there are many more that are useful in various situations.  I really like the idea of being about to boot off of flash drives although I've not yet had a chance to set DSL or Puppy up to do that.  A couple of other's that I think of off the top of my head are dynebolic and legonoppix.  The former has a cia factbook based world geography program as well as tons of streaming multimedia options for the arts (I believe the cia factbook geography thing is xrmg, however I will look it up and report back) and legonoppix (I have a very old copy and don't know if it is still being worked on) has several applications to allow one to program lego robots.

One of the most exciting things for me is the use of boot cds with emulators for three different purposes.  One purpose is test out bunches of .iso's without having to actually burn any CD's or wait for long boot times.  The second is to test new remasters out before burning them (and wasting a cd if you made a stupid mistake).  The third (and I really love this one) is to provide a full system in all it's glory (or a completely chopped down 1 purpose application cd) to windows user's...i.e. you put Qemu (or VMWare viewer) on the cd with an inf that says to start the emulator pointing to the iso stored on the cd.  I believe it could also autostart on various linux distro's (you'd have to put both versions of the emulator on the cd)

Pop said disk into cd slot on a windows box and let it boot and there it all is...When done just click the little X on the emulators window and it all goes away...it's really nice.  Try it...:)

As to programs on an educational livecd please include kturtle (edubuntu-live already does ;) and if you can find it a better version of the xrmg program I mentioned above.

Alight, back to the salt mines.