Re: SEUL: New links2.html doc

[EAMorical@aol.com]

While I was sitting here pondering what shall I try and do next, I read
through Roger's and Brian's posts to this topic. Sounds like I've got some
work to do. Anyway during the past week I learned of the following two really
good links. Perhaps they could be added.

http://www.webring.org/cgi-bin/webring?ring=lug;id=23;list  Linux User's
Groups Webring

This goes with the GLUE link. Although GLUE contains a lot more information,
it is really out of date.

http://www.cheek.com/linux/kb  linux knowledgebase

Check this one out. It is being put together by Joseph Cheek, Director of
Cheek Consulting in Seattle, Wa. The goal is to archive all technical linux
information in an easily-searchable format available via a web browser or on
the command line. I guess this one should come after the Linux Documentation
Project.

I believe we are using the same search engine. To me this appears to have some
real possibilities for us. We need to think about it. Maybe for Taskhelps.

In (http://www.seul.org/archives/seul/pub/Dec-1998/msg00053.html) Roger
writes:
>http://www.seul.org/what/links2.html

There appears to be no link from the web site to "links2". Perhaps we could
switch the link on the front page to "links2" and at the bottom of "links2"
put a link to the original saying something like "More links located here".
Also I would suggest moving the educational links on the seul-edu Homepage to
an educational section on "links2" and having just a link from the seul-edu
Homepage to the educational section. The URL to "Linux in the Classroom
(LITC)" brings up Unknown Host and the URL to ComputerBank has changed to
(http://www.melbourne.net/kylie).

>These are the links that Bob sent me earlier.

>I think what needs to be done is somebody should decide on a good
>order for the categories (and fill in missing categories and remove
>redundant categories), and merge the links in each relevant category.

>Anybody want to volunteer for this, or shall I just sort of leave it to
>limp along as best it can?

No we can't let it limp along. I guess I need to do something.

>Thanks,
>--Roger

In http://www.seul.org/archives/seul/pub/Dec-1998/maillist.html Brian writes:
>I know that Roger has already commented on your message above but I'll add my
>$0.02 worth to the links page.  I find it a lot cleaner than the original
version
>but this has been gained at a loss of clarity of what the links actually link
to
>in some cases.  It would be worthwhile, IMO, to include at least a
description at
>the top of each section so that people know what they're getting into.  There
are
>some specific links that are probably not in the right location (slashdot is
more
>About Linux if anything since it is not purely a Linux site) and there could
>probably be some additional information beside each of the links to tell
people
>what GNOME, for example, is about.

I guess the first step is for me to come up with the descriptions, then we can
figure out how to get them in.

>I haven't followed up all the links so I'm not sure why Debian appears under
both
>About Linux and Distribs.  In a more generic sense, it seems to me that a
slightly

Both Debian and GNOME show up twice because they are projects under SPI and I
couldn't figure out what else to do.

>more hierarchical view would assist clarity of the links, with two top level
>headings (About and Systems) and under them would come a second layer of
headings
>(for About, the next layer would be Free Software, Linux, Distribs, Advocacy,
>Projects (?) and for Systems there would be GUI Software, Development
Software,
>Commercial Office Suites and Hardware (add other software and hardware
headings as
>needed, set up another hierarchical layer?)).  This proposal arises from the
>observation that this page is presenting two types of links, information (for
>either new users or those looking for some additional info) and products
(GNOME,
>KDE, etc).

Thanks Brian for your suggestions. Actually I've spent a lot of time just
staring at it. At one time or another, I thought about the GUI category, but
then there would only be two items (GNOME and KDE). I also thought about the
commercial software category for Star Office and Applixware but then what do I
do with GIMP and Samba. These two seem to be beyond the development category.
And so it went on and on. Anyway I'll give it some more thought and at least
some descriptions can be added. Slowly we're making progress on a number of
fronts. I guess the Linux advocacy documents project will eventually take care
of advocacy links. As Roger noted many links are out of date. This was a big
problem in selecting links. I view the end user as a customer and one only
sends a customer to good links if they want the customer to be happy. In time
we'll find the really good links. We found two more this week.

>All said, however, the new page is an improvement over the previous one.

>Brian Wiens

1999 The Year Of Linux
Make It Happen

Bob