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Re: [tor-bugs] #4261 [Tor bundles/installation]: Use .dmg rather than .zip for Mac OS X
#4261: Use .dmg rather than .zip for Mac OS X
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Reporter: ioerror | Owner: hellias
Type: task | Status: needs_revision
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: Tor bundles/installation | Version:
Keywords: tbb-usability | Parent:
Points: | Actualpoints:
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Comment(by greg):
Replying to [comment:28 hellais]:
> Replying to [comment:22 Sebastian]:
> > No, this isn't merged because it doesn't make sense. .dmg files are
for applications which get dropped into /Applications, which TBB should
never be on any system with more than one user. People who separate an
admin account from their normal account (like sane people should) are
always surprised when their TBB doesn't work right for them if they put it
int /Applications, or C:\Program Files on Windows, etc.
> >
>
> If the issue is the fact that the application ends up installed for all
the users of the system instead of putting an icon shortcut to
/Applications we can put an icon shortcut to ~/Applications. This is done
by a few applications on OSX and it's the equivalent of doing an
installation of an app only for that user.
>
>
> > Also note that for the computer illiterate, the default behaviour of
Safari is to "open safe files after downloading", which means people will
automagically have the extracted file in their download directory, already
extracted. No .zip file wrangling necessary. I absolutely agree that .dmg
is the proper way to distribute normal applications on osx, but TBB is not
a normal application like all the others. We could fix that, but by doing
so we'd need to accept that there's no way to confine TBB to one single
directory anymore. That's probably what we should do anyway, as the
portability aspect is much less important now that we force TBB for
everyone rather than have the possibility of the Vidalia bundle; but
that's a separate discussion (which we should have, asap).
>
> What is the difference with running TBB from ~/Applications compared
with running it from your ~/Downloaded directory? In the second it just
pollutes a directory that is uber polluted already and the user actually
looses track of it.
>
> It's also worth noting that the default behavior in Safari for unzipping
files automatically makes you end up with the .zip file inside of your
trashcan. The user may not be aware of this and could lead him into
getting into trouble.
>
A typical user expects TBB to act like an application. As long as they can
navigate to their "Applications" folder, and click on something that
launches the TBB, they will be happy.
I understand there are technical constraints here, but users have a
preconceived notion about how software installation occurs. They may not
be familiar with concepts like a user directory vs a system directory.
If having TBB installed systemwide is an issue, by all means, avoid it at
all costs.
But we should have the installation process be as similar to any other OSX
application.
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