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Re: [tor-bugs] #10569 [TorBrowserButton]: Tor Browser's Private Browsing Mode breaks sites.
#10569: Tor Browser's Private Browsing Mode breaks sites.
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Reporter: mttp | Owner: mikeperry
Type: defect | Status: new
Priority: normal | Milestone:
Component: TorBrowserButton | Version:
Resolution: | Keywords: tbb-usability-website
Actual Points: | Parent ID:
Points: |
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Comment (by joebt):
"...''frustrated when they can't log in to certain sites. An example is
en.mail.qq.com''"
Another example is https://unseen.is, in the login form at top of page.
This page was accessible / readable via TBB last week, but not today
(after site upgrades?). NOTE: the site is in ICELAND - country code
"'''.is'''" - not to be mistaken w/ the word "'''''is'''''."
With the site whitelisted in NoScript & even w/ Private Browsing mode
disabled (basically only allowing cookies, or [as a test] also allowing
"remember browsing history" - at least while accessing a critical site).
Creating a new Unseen.is email account: __Before__ Unseen.is "upgraded
their system" on 3/2/2014, from above URL, with cookies allowed &
unseen.is whitelisted in !NoScript, it was possible to load the site in
TBB 3.5.2 (Win). Data for a new acct could be submitted via TBB & the
acct __was actually created__. But once data was submitted & acct
creation was successful, all that appeared afterward in TBB was a blank
page w/ "spinning throbber / wheel" - that just sat.
But the acct was created & could be accessed / used, by other browser. It
was also impossible to login to the active acct via TBB. Again, it seemed
to accept login data, but then displays only blank screen w/ a throbber or
"star wheel."
'''KEY POINT''': The problem doesn't seem to be NoScript, javascript or
cookie issues.
Even (temporarily) disabling or uninstalling in TBB 3.5.2: NoScript and /
or: (Torbutton, HTTPS Everywhere), doesn't allow accessing
HTTPS://unseen.is. There are apparently? other settings changes made in
TBB causing the problem. It may __BE__ valid action by TBB to preserve
anonymity, but it's still a problem.
__But...Using regular Fx 27 - Win, with NoScript,__ (and unseen is
whitelisted), HTTPS Everywhere & only session cookies allowed for
Unseen.is (no 3rd party), login works normally. As w/ TBB, after
submitting login data, the white "loading mask" page w/ throbber appears a
few sec., but quickly disappears - allowing access to the acct.
Separate testing with regular Fx 27, using a "special profile" created by
the extension "JonDoFox," the __same problem arises__. Even after the
extra* addons installed by JonDoFox extension - for privacy - are
disabled or removed. *Extra addons JDF installs are similar to TBB:
NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere - plus couple others. But JDF makes some
similar changes about:config, or in blocking certain browser data to
reduce browser fingerprinting, as do TBB / Torbutton.
So far, I've not identified what common changes* made by TBB / Torbutton
and !JonDoFox (*that AREN'T __directly__ in NoScript, etc.) - that may be
the problem - if any. But the issue ''seems'' to point at such __common__
changes, that aren't part of NoScript, HTTPS Everywhere, etc.
"''you can disable private browsing mode from Torbutton''"
Yes, but that still doesn't allow TBB 3.5.2 Win access to
https://unseen.is. AFAIK, regardless of what OTHER TBB privacy settings
are changed, the site's still inaccessible.
What may be of troubleshooting help is the domain
https://mail.unseen.is/webmail/ __IS TBB accessible__ & __login works__ -
at least for me as of 3/3. To login w/ TBB at this URL, only domain
unseen.is is whitelisted in NoScript & session cookies for (only) the
unseen.is domain are required. So far, several support techs seem unaware
of this difference for the 2 URLs.
Note: Seems __no trackers__ on [https://mail.unseen.is/webmail/
https://mail.unseen.is/webmail/.]But [https://unseen.is
https://unseen.is,][https://unseen.is shows tracker
https://dnn506yrbagrg.cloudfront.net/pages/scripts/0019/2012.js?387188.
May / may not be significant to the issue.]
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Ticket URL: <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/10569#comment:7>
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