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Re: [tor-bugs] #25226 [Core Tor/Tor]: Circuit cell queue can fill up memory
#25226: Circuit cell queue can fill up memory
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Reporter: dgoulet | Owner: dgoulet
Type: defect | Status:
| needs_review
Priority: Medium | Milestone: Tor:
| 0.3.3.x-final
Component: Core Tor/Tor | Version:
Severity: Normal | Resolution:
Keywords: tor-cell, tor-relay, tor-dos, | Actual Points:
033-must, review-group-34, security, |
033-triage-20180320, 033-included-20180320 |
Parent ID: | Points:
Reviewer: arma | Sponsor:
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Comment (by mikeperry):
Replying to [comment:24 arma]:
> Replying to [comment:20 dgoulet]:
> > Datapoint: #9072
>
> This old ticket is really important here, because there was an earlier
ticket (#9063) that proposed to limit the number of cells in-flight on a
circuit, and #9072 is arguing that it opens up a bad guard discovery
attack.
>
> Mind you, when I opened #9072, it was simply about how our protocol
actually allows a huge number of cells in-flight, because non-data cells
don't count in the sendme windows, so there is no easy small number where
if a circuit goes over you know it's violating protocol.
>
> Mike was the one who retitled my ticket to be about guard discovery
attacks. He says:
> {{{
> The attack enabled by #9063 is extremely similar to the Guard discovery
attack from rpw's paper.
> }}}
>
> I wonder what the guard discovery attack actually is? Nobody says what
it is on that ticket.
>
> So it would seem smart to reconstruct what it was we were worried about,
to figure out if we should still be worried.
>
> I am bringing Mikeperry back into this ticket so he can channel his
five-year-earlier self and tell us what the danger is.
The attack in #9072 was due to allowing a small, fixed amount of stream
creates in flight to kill the circuit. If this number is small and
predicable, a malicious website can create that many streams to cause the
circuit to fail, at which point Tor will rebuild a new one on a new path.
The website gets to rinse and repeat, and create enough circuits until one
of its middles is chosen next to the guard.
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Ticket URL: <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/ticket/25226#comment:26>
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