Re: [tor-dev] [RFC] On new guard algorithms and data structures

["l.m" <ter.one.leeboi@xxxxxxxx>]

> "a) The network is not hostile and allows access just fine, but..."

This came up before didn't it. Nick mentioned that the question `network down` isn't the easiest question to answer portably. Supposing such a network could have it's properties (like route) enumerated this might provide another solution to (a). If the network changes in some measurable way without also being immediately preceded by a bootstrap (route shows next hop unreachable), then consider the network down and schedule attempts to reestablish communication.

A key problem will be distinguishing this type of network from a hostile network where the access is just cut off. Most likely to force a bootstrap, or guard-rotation like activity. A warning here to indicate the network was bootstrapped, but for some past interval(s) the network appears down (and should the client check firewall, gateway, or try a bridge). A client should probably be `aware` of some level of network access, otherwise all solutions are naive.

> "b) ..."

Retrying guards is the crux of the problem. If you blindly retry guards, even to prevent rotation, you eventually come to a hard place where this will backfire badly. Even if it works sometimes. Although I don't think the client should rely on the OS (which may be compromised).

--leeroy

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