Re: [tor-dev] Proposal 332: Ntor protocol with extra data, version 3.

[Nick Mathewson <nickm@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 3:04 PM Ian Goldberg <iang@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 12:01:47PM -0400, Nick Mathewson wrote:
> > Both parties know that they used the same verification string; if
> > they did not, they do not learn what the verification string was.
> > (This feature is required for HS handshakes.)
>
> I'm not sure the protocol you specify has this feature as written.  For
> example, if the verification string has low entropy, the server could
> brute-force the client's verification string (using the MAC to check its
> guess).  This is unlike, say, OTR's SMP or a PAKE, in which each online
> execution of the protocol allows the server just one guess.
>
> But perhaps you don't actually need the property in as strong a form as
> you wrote it, since the HS handshake application has high-entropy
> secrets?

Oh yes, you are right, of course.

Can you suggest a way to phrase this property that encompasses what
the protocol actually does provide?

best wishes,
-- 
Nick
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