Re: [tor-dev] "old style" hidden services after Prop224

[Lunar <lunar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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s7r:
> So, my opinion is to deprecate v2 entirely after a sane and 
> reasonable transition period.  Apologies to whom this will create 
> headaches - technologically everything can be adjusted to v3 hidden
> services, it's just some work required -- it's not going to be fun
> but it's the clean way for the longer term future.

For what its worth, we now have a social contract [1] that can help us
evaluate such decisions.

In any cases, v2 onion services are broken in several aspects. I think
this is good be advertised even more (point 5, being honest about
limits). The outdated crypto primitives are not my main concerns. I
think the fact that an HSDir can learn onion service addresses, refuse
to serve them, or track connections is really bad.

Once v3 onion services are deployed, I believe the current set of
problems in v2 conflict with social contract point 6, “we will never
intentionally harm our users”. Having them continue to use a
technology that doesn't deliver its initial promises when a better
option is available feels like intentional harm to me.

YMMV, obviously, but I think this is a good framework for having a
discussion. (Should we move this to -project? Not sure.)

 [1]: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/tor-social-contract
 [2]: https://blog.torproject.org/blog/hidden-services-need-some-love
      See “Attacks by Hidden Service Directory Servers”

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Lunar                                             <lunar@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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