Re: What am I doing wrong? - if anything

[Lyndsay Roger <gombadi@xxxxxxxxx>]

Thanks for the reply Andrew.

I will keep sending off the same response to abuse/DMCA notices and we
will see how things go. It is good to know I am on the right path - I
come from a technical background and do not have much experience in
legal areas.




On 8 April 2010 13:59, Andrew Lewman <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 07:56 AM, Lyndsay Roger wrote:
>> A few months ago I set up a tor node on a dedicated server in the UK.
>> I left it running as a relay node for a few weeks and then opened it
>> up as an exit node but only for a few restricted ports like web, pop
>> and imap.
>
> Great.  Thanks for running nodes!
>
>> What I was wondering was - is this what the future holds? Get an abuse
>> report, send a reply and wait for the next. I looked through the email
>> archives and I have seen that some people have had worse. I guess it
>> depends on the company you are working with and how much they will put
>> up with.
>
> Some people are unlucky and seem to get more abuse complaints than
> others.  I ran one node for years and never received complaints.  And
> then I ran a node recently and received 1 DMCA complaint a day.  After
> two weeks of this, I talked to some manager at the ISP. I explained Tor,
> that I'm going to respond to each one with a template, and I'm going to
> automate the whole thing.  They were fine with it, as they just wanted
> to know that I was aware and had a response.
>
> It seems silly to automate responses to automated accusations, but so be
> it.  Fixing the core problem of the false accusations and the weight
> ISPs give to these false accusations is longer problem to tackle; and
> one I couldn't automate.
>
>> Also do I just reply to the hosting company who forwarded me the
>> abuse/DMCA report or do I have to contact the abuse reporter.
>
> You should reply to the hosting company.   In fact, you may just want to
> talk/email the support manager and explain what you're doing.
>
>> The US
>> company said I should file a DMCA Counter claim and work it out with
>> the person filing the DMCA claim.
>
> I believe the dmca counter claim advice to be incorrect.  The dmca claim
> is generally used for getting content re-instated after a takedown.
> However, I'm not a lawyer.  Perhaps any lawyers on this list can respond.
>
> --
> Andrew Lewman
> The Tor Project
> pgp 0x31B0974B
>
> Website: https://www.torproject.org/
> Blog: https://blog.torproject.org/
> Identi.ca: torproject
>