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From: Duncan Guthrie <dguthrie@xxxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2016 07:45:41 +0000
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The problem with Facebook is that their policies on real names somewhat goes against hiding from a repressive regime. Their terms and conditions mandate that they kick people who use pseudonyms, and make fellow Facebook users rat on each other.
If I was an activist I would be wary of using it on or off Tor at all. If I am going to be harassed for using Facebook, it's probably unsafe to use Tor altogether. It isn't worth the risk, except in a very limited manner.
I think the hidden service in this case is just gesture politics. It's not really for citizens in repressive regimes, but people who have little to fear from using Tor.

Duncan

On 7 December 2016 3:20:05 pm GMT+00:00, Rana <ranaventures@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

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 As one of the Tor users who connects to services where I have to use my real name (e.g., my banks), I think it's not helpful to make assumptions about everyone's use case. Part of why I use Tor is to
 keep my ISPs from snooping on what I'm doing, and it's possible some of these millions of facebook users are doing the same. 

We will never know the breakdown of the Facebook users by the reason why they use Tor. However, surely many of them are under repressive regimes and do not want their ass kicked for
what they write on Facebook. Protecting them is fine purpose and anyhow, Tor has no control over how people use the network and certainly not over why they use it.

Rana

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