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Re: [tor-relays] Tor Organizations Meetup during 36c3 in Leipzig (Germany)
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- Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2020 19:05:42 +0100
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Hello everyone,
we (Frënn vun der Ënn) are working on a "Tor Organization Code of Conduct" .
In the next weeks you will get further information.
Best regards
Chrëscht
Internation Ambassador
Frënn vun der Ënn A.S.B.L.
Am 03.01.20 um 15:45 schrieb ml-torrelays@xxxxxxxxxxxxx:
> Hello everyone,
> during the 36c3 we organized a Tor Assembly, same as in 2017/2018. The
> 36c3 is the annual congress of the Germany CCC (Chaos Computer Club),
> which is a gathering of 17.000 people of the hacking community. I has
> grown a lot and people from all over the world are attending.
>
> We also had two sessions, one was a relay operator meetup with FAQ and a
> presentation [1] of "Foundation of Applied Privacy" about their Exits.
> The other session was a Tor organizations meetup. During the
> organizations meetup some notes were taken and it was agreed to share
> those afterwards.
>
> [1] https://appliedprivacy.net/presentations/
>
>
>
> The following topics were discussed:
>
> + Concentration of Tor exit capacity in unique entities, how much of the
> Tor (exit) capacity should be in control of one group or person?
>
> ++ This is a recurring discussion, various people have suggested limits
> between 5% and 10% exit probability.
>
> ++ Frënn vun der Ënn are working on a "Tor Organization Code of Conduct"
> including such a self-limitation - This was only mentioned by some
> participants and is not first hand information.
>
>
> + Professionalization of operation and administration, challenges in
> finding/keeping volunteers.
>
> ++ One organization is running on "grown" infrastructure that is
> administrated by Perl scripts, which new volunteers are having
> difficulties working with.
>
> ++ Sharing documentation/code used by various organizations might be a
> solution, this has also been asked for at the Tor Relay Operator Meetup.
>
>
> + Why are people scared of abuse? What problem does a hosting provider
> face if abuse happens/is not stopped?
>
> ++ At least for most servers rented from ISPs, if you don't react to
> abuse email in a timely manner, they will disconnect you.
>
> ++ On a higher level, there seems to be a risk for ASNs with too much
> unchecked abuse.
>
>
> + Procurement of hardware
>
> ++ One organization mentioned CPU load issues if they allow port 22 exit
> traffic. Better hardware might help them.
>
> ++ If you can donate relatively modern server hardware to Tor
> organization, please consider mentioning this on tor-relays mailing list.
>
>
> + Handing over the administration of Torservers.net has not progressed
> very much.
>
> ++ Original post:
> https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tor-relays/2019-May/017269.html
>
> ++ One problem could be a lack of information about the type and amount
> of work that needs to be done.
>
> ++ Handling press inquiries has been taken over by a group of other
> organizations, seems to be working well.
>
>
> + IPv6
>
> ++ Some major Tor exit operator might loose their IPv4 space within the
> next 2-3 years, which makes progress in the IPv6 area crucial for them
> to continue contributing to the network.
>
> ++ The Tor Project got IPv6 funding from RIPE NCC, but in addition to
> the software portion (Tor Project responsibility) also operators need to
> take action and ensure they have IPv6 connectivity enabled on their systems.
>
>
> + BGP Routing Security
>
> ++ BGPalerter is an easy to use tool to monitor your ASN for hijacking
> attempts and visibility issues nitor your ASN for hijacking attempts and
> visibility issues https://github.com/nttgin/BGPalerter
>
>
> + Future meetings
>
> ++ Some organizations wish to be invited to the Tor meetings. People of
> some organizations attend the meetings aready through other means.
>
>
>
> The meetup took 90 minutes, in the end it was decided to organize a
> meetup like this each year. Quarterly mumble meetings are to be held.
>
> Some of the organizations present (in alphabetical order) were:
>
> Artikel10 - https://artikel10.org/
> Artikel 5 e.V. - https://www.artikel5ev.de/
> Digitalcourage - https://digitalcourage.de/en
> Digitale Gesellschaft - https://www.digitale-gesellschaft.ch/
> Emerald Onion -
> https://emeraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/meraldonion.org/
> F3 Netze - https://f3netze.de/
> Foundation for Applied Privacy - https://applied-privacy.net/
> Nos Oignons - https://nos-oignons.net/
> Zwiebelfreunde - https://www.zwiebelfreunde.de/
>
>
> This text was composed in a pad by various people, the license of the
> text is CC-BY-SA 3.0, original text can be found
> here: https://cryptpad.fr/pad/#/2/pad/edit/eMjLydN6sIQSMbHwNwzIUHDL/
>
> // End of protocol
>
> I hope there is no information missing, I shared the pad and some people
> were working on the text in the last 3 days, please feel free to discuss
> the topics mentioned and also feel free to add information missing.
>
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