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Re: [tor-relays] Exit policy question



btw, when we say "secure" we don't refer to "encryption" but rather to keeping undesired elements from communicating with us :P

"secure" in terms of what you mean is accomplished by physical port/wire security, or encrypting the entire layer-2 stuff thoroughly, with something -custom- (not american-run ssl junk ;)


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On Fri, 3 Jun 2011, Eugen Leitl wrote:

On Fri, Jun 03, 2011 at 12:27:08PM +0000, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:

plus, who still cares about smtp anyway, its pretty much dead, 300 spam

If you think SMTP is dead, you're way out of touch with reality.

mails per day and just 1 or 2 real emails a week, anything important is

If you receive 300 spams/day, and your volume is not 50000 emails/day,
there's something wrong with your spam filter.

handled over skype and other transports which have "friends lists"

Skype? That thing that's blocked on corporate networks, and the
kind of company that autoinstalls malware despite explicit user's
wishes? The kind of company just purchased by Microsoft, which
forebodes plenty of great things in the future?

nowadays. if they don't fix their protocol to have friends lists, they
have no right to complain.. we're gonna completely shut down smtp soon

Who is this 'we' kemosabe?

enough, its old, dusty, not peer 2 peer (hardly any open relays

It *WORKS*. And is an integral part of corporate communications.

left),insecure (no pre-approved senders/friends list) slow (graylisting),

Insecure? Never heard about StartTLS or PGP/S/MIME?

unreliable (spamhaus idiots), and pretty much, dead (number of real
emails per week vs the number of junk per hour ;).

even more dead than that other piece of crap from the past, ftp and

Ftp is dead, too? Nobody told me.

In fact, ftp and mail server is the first thing that people yell about
when it goes down.

What are you going to tell us next? That nobody uses telephones,
and there are no fax machines? Really? You sure?

gopher :P

anyway, an access lists which allows http and https but -not- to
hotmail/gmail/rest of that crap would not be too hard to make.

P.S. As someone who bitches about email, notice you're using
email, and you top-posted and failed to trim the message.

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