Re: [tor-relays] Handling abuse - like to get your help please

[Gumby <info@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Exits are badly needed, but is it economically feasible to change to a 
relay? Based on your cost, and the ISP attitude to a relay only, does it 
make sense to be a relay instead - and still provide for the Tor community?
  I would be curious also to know if many of the ISP's have a higher 
level that gives them grief if they fail to act. I personally know my 
provider CEO, and he has no problem at all with what I run (just 2 
relays now) unless many complaints occur. He stated that the government  
(FBI) starts monitoring after a few complaints from "certain" factions 
and he wants to avoid that. He has actually considered running his own 
exit after I talked to him, he fully understands and supports the ideals.

Me

On 06/21/2016 10:36 AM, pa011 wrote:
> Jon, all others,
>
> yes I understand what you say and obviously have to accept the ISP's
> wishes (order).
>
> But before giving up a 100Mbit/s exit I would like to understand more
> about the ISP's reasons and burdens:
>
> - is it just the more work for rather poor money handling(forwarding)
> those abuses ?
> - to whom else dose he have to report what he is doing with the gotten
> abuses?
> - must he answer to the origin of the abuse?
> - who is getting a copy of them(if at all)?
> - can he loose his license as a ISP (with to many or badly handled abuses)?
> - are there any regulatory burdens for them - if so which ones?
> - are ISP's treated different in different parts of the world?
>
> Answers here might help me and others in bringing forward the discussion
> with them.
>
> Paul
>
>
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