Re: [tor-relays] Amazon abuse report

[Gordon Morehouse <gordon@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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gq:
> Access to tails does not depend on any specific transfer protocol
> such as torrents correct?
> 
> Could it not be made available on a hidden service, a website. an
> email or ftp server within tor?

An http hidden service with the .onion link in Tor docs might be an
obvious choice.

> 
> On 11/4/2013 11:45 PM, Nelson wrote:
>> From all that I have read in these lists not all exit nodes are 
>> configured exactly the same, so some level of traffic control is
>> being rightly exercised by the operator(s). For any given reason
>> be it moral, ethical or legal many well known ports are being
>> blocked, as was previously discussed, as an example by setting up
>> a "white-listing" config rather than blacklisting, and these
>> white-listed ports exclude known ports used by Torrent sites. The
>> choice to configure the exit node should be left to the operator
>> based on their own legitimate preference and criteria.
>> 
>> The argument to "what if" is indeed relative to the level of
>> control and access to legitimate torrents such as "Tails", and
>> therefore any argument against freedom of access to legitimate
>> content defeats the purpose of Tor. This is not really an issue.
>> I'll ask a stupid question: "what comes first, the chicken or the
>> egg?" If you have access to Tor client in the first place and
>> want to download Tails, where's the problem?
>> 
>> ..and if you don't have Tor client installed in the first place,
>> where do you get it, so "they" (mel gibson quote) don't know
>> 
>> On 11/4/2013 5:23 PM, Kevin C. Krinke wrote:
>>>> On Nov 4, 2013, at 7:13 PM, Nelson <nelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
>>>> <mailto:nelson@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I do believe there is a benefit to Torrents as many of us can
>>>> attest to, ex: fast downloads of different Linux distros; but
>>>> if your use of Torrents is in fact legit then why use Tor for
>>>> downloading your legal content in the first place? This
>>>> doesn't pass the smell test.
>>> What about someone in a highly censored locale that wants to
>>> download a copy of Tails or TBB without "them" knowing?
>>> 
>>>> +1 for restricting bandwidth
>>> For the record, my exit node does limit the ports as per the
>>> reduced exit policy [1] and I'd happily open it up wide if I
>>> could throttle just the torrenting to a minimally-usable level.
>>> However, I honestly don't think it's realistic to spend so much
>>> effort to solve the throttling of torrents when those efforts
>>> could be better spent elsewhere [2].
>>> 
>>> Just my 0.00000000002BTC
>>> 
>>> Cheers!
>>> 
>>> -- Kevin C. Krinke <kevin@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:kevin@xxxxxxxxx>> 
>>> GnuPG - 851662D2 - 0x18C67F61851662D2 
>>> http://kevin.c.krinke.ca/851662D2.asc
>>> 
>>> 
>>> [1]
>>> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/ReducedExitPolicy
>>>
>>>
>>> 
[2] No idea what would be better deserving but I'm sure there's plenty
>>> of work in Tor-project-land that doesn't involve throttling
>>> hard-target services.
>>> 
>>> 
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