Re: [tor-relays] NSA's "Tor Stinks"

[grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 3:07 AM, Moritz Bartl <moritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On 10/09/2013 05:40 AM, krishna e bera wrote:
>>> obviously has implications into other Tor users, the vast majority of
>>> whom use Tor for legal and proper activities.
>> Could you give some evidence for what "vast majority" means in terms of
>> percentages?  How are you getting such data?
>
> There can never be "proof", and I don't have hard statistical evidence,
> but estimating from the number of bytes our (exit) relays pushed in the
> last years, compared to the amount of abuse reported (or, police
> requests, for that matter), I tend to agree with that statement.

True. If one took the total of all traffic/flows passed, and divided
that by the amount of traffic/flows of the average user (or simply
counted users), the result will certainly be far more than the
number of problems. Whether that ratio is tilted in one direction
or the other when compared with the internet would be hard to
test without examining traffic or drafting other estimates, but the
problem ones are still a reasonably minimal fraction from the
perspective of the operator. ie: 5M users/day are generating
how many reports again... 50? 500? 5000? That's barely a
fraction of a percent. Of course, as with the internet, misbehavior
rates are obviously much higher than report rates, but that's a
discipline problem not a criminal one.
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