Re: [tor-relays] ISP, Abuses , Intrusion Prevention etc.

[Markus Koch <niftybunny@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

tldr: epic quest chain, this ISP item must be orange.

2016-10-11 10:53 GMT+02:00 Moritz Bartl <moritz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>:
> On 10/11/2016 12:51 AM, Kenneth Freeman wrote:
>>>>> I set up my own ISP (AS28715) so I could run Tor exits etc without any
>>>>> trouble.
>>>> Could you share a bit more about what is involved in doing that?
>>> I'd also be very interested in learning more about setting up an ISP
>>> for Tor. Is it a non-profit? How many man hours did it take (roughly)
>>> to get the structure in place? How much money (roughly) did it take?
>>> How much legal consultation did it require to setup?
>> I'm intrigued by this myself.
>
> There are different phases or activities one might consider being part
> of "creating an ISP".
>
> Legally, you "create an ISP" by operating a Tor exit relay.
>
> As always, for exit relays, I strongly urge people to get listed in the
> WHOIS of the respective IP range, especially as abuse contact. As soon
> as you're listed there, a lot more people will regard you as "the ISP".
>
> In theory it does not matter what type of legal entity is listed there;
> I know of hosting providers run by single individuals without another
> legal entity "around them", and it works just fine. Still, in many
> cases, if they see the name of an individual, they will more likely
> assume that you might be the culprit, than if it just lists an
> incorporated entity.
>
> Then, the next step is to get your own Autonomous System Number. Quite a
> number of complaints don't go to the abuse contact listed in the IP
> range, but directly to the "upstream" Autonomous System operator. You
> "catch" these types of complaints by registering your own, and your own
> IP space. Then, the hunt for "exit friendly hosters" turns into a hunt
> for ISPs that will announce your IP space and your ASN.
>
> In most jurisdictions, you do not register "common carrier-type"
> activities with the government; you have to register Internet _access_
> providers in certain jurisdictions (eg. Germany), but you do not _want_
> to be an _access_ provider with your exit relays.
>
> To get an Autonomous System Number and IP space, the place to go to
> depends on _your_ jurisdiction: ARIN (US/CAN), RIPE (EU), APNIC (Asia),
> LANIC (Latin America), AFRINIC (Africa); IP ranges and ASNs can then be
> announced by any hosting provider.
>
> For examples, see
> https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html?searchtext=ZWIEBELFREUNDE
>
> --
> Moritz Bartl
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