Re: [tor-relays] Greypony / Conrad Rockenhaus offline?

[Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/04/2018 04:43 PM, Nathaniel Suchy wrote:
> Hi Matt,
> 
> That project is now in the works. Meanwhile will other community members
> continue creating threads about our organization? It has to stop on both
> ends otherwise we’re forced to respond when people create threads about us.
> 
> Cordially,
> Nathaniel Suchy

I get how you'd feel that way, given that you've been part of the Tor
community for quite some time.

On the other hand, people create threads frequently about the fate of
their relay(s) hosted by various firms. And, with few exceptions, I
don't recall seeing replies here from those firms. In a few cases,
operators have posted messages received from providers. But there have
rarely been replies. Once or twice in the last few years, as I recall.

I can't say that I really care. Traffic and storage are inexpensive
these days, and it's easy to filter messages. So what's the harm?

> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 6:24 PM Matt Traudt <pastly@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
>> On October 4, 2018 4:54:54 PM EDT, Nathaniel Suchy <me@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> We wouldn’t have to make these threads if community members like Isaac
>>> didn’t make threads about a lack of response from one team member.
>>>
>>> We could:
>>> A) Inform everyone
>>> B) Inform a few customers and hope we don’t miss any
>>> C) Ignore the problem and have more negative  threads created about us.
>>>
>>> Whatever we do it turns out negative for someone.
>>>
>>> Cordially,
>>> Nathaniel Suchy
>>>
>>> On Thu, Oct 4, 2018 at 3:50 PM s7r <s7r@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> George wrote:
>>>>> Roman Mamedov:
>>>>>> On Wed, 3 Oct 2018 03:52:24 +0200
>>>>>> niftybunny <abuse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A Tor friendly ISP is gone has nothing to do with a Tor relay
>>>> mailing list?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes I would say so. Mentioning a few Tor nodes going offline is one
>>>> thing, but
>>>>>> by now half of this list is covered in total b/s drivel such as
>>>>>
>>>>> Agree strongly.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> +1
>>>> First of all, we are not talking about an ISP in the real sense of the
>>>> word. Is is OVH who is the ISP. This is a re-seller of an ISP, but this
>>>> is not the point.
>>>>
>>>> The point is, with all due respect, this really has to stop. it has been
>>>> so much noise about this, more than any CVE vulnerability we had. This
>>>> is not what this mailing list is meant for. This is not Conrad
>>>> Rockenhaus blog or support forums. If so much people on this list are
>>>> interested in this topic these people should setup their own community,
>>>> own mail list and own blogs / forums where they can talk about Greypony
>>>> until the Earth as a planet becomes square. But it is off topic here.
>>>> This statement could have been sent directly to their customers, not to
>>>> everyone on the list.
>>>>
>>>> Would you like me to start sending every day emails about how I bought a
>>>> provider independent prefix and contracted 2 upstream providers with BGP
>>>> sessions and 4gbps bwidth? I done this to avoid being thrown over and
>>>> over by hosters as I changed more than 5 in the last 2 years. I didn't
>>>> notify anyone about it as I don't think anyone should care.
>>>>
>>>> For example the BGP session with my backup provider failed today for 45
>>>> minutes. Would you like to hear about it? I sent them an email. They
>>>> fixed it. Hmmm.
>>>>
>>>> On the other side of things, I am really sorry about the health
>>>> incident, which is of course sad, and I wish Conrad a fast recovery and
>>>> best wishes for his health and his family.
>>>>
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>> Please go start your own mailing list for support/updates/etc.
>>
>> Matt
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