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Re: [tor-relays] Reimbursement of Exit Operators



While I believe you have a good point....

On Wed, 18 Sep 2013 19:29:26 -0400, tor@xxxxxxx wrote:
> 
>  Think bigger, say what?
> 
> Certain of the world's biggest and most well-funded intelligence 
> agencies hate personal privacy on the internet so much that they've 
> been going to extreme efforts to destroy it. They are packet sniffing 
> the NAPs and fiber backbones to pull out everything they can, they 
> hacked/broke HTTPS, they are backdoored into the big content 
> providers, they hacked the banking system, they are apparently 'in' 
> some hardware crypto chips - the list goes on -
> 
> They infiltrated the tech groups which were designing software and 
> hardware and sabotaged their work, making their crypto be 
> weaker/breakable and their systems easier to hack into. They use the 
> vulnerabilities they created to their own ends.
> 
> As of today, Tor appears to provide privacy, at least as far as the 
> .onion sites goes. Maybe it even works for it's entire function of 
> providing anonymous internet browsing.
> 
> 'They' would definitely want to be IN this thing, because they either 
> want to compromise it, or if that doesn't work well enough, destroy 
> it. 'They' are known to infiltrate and be influential in getting what 
> they want. Literally, they are professionals at this. 'Getting to 
> know' the exit relay operators and identifying their bank accounts 
> would help facilitate things when it came time for them to make their 
> move.
> 
> In the context of September 2013, this whole thing is scary. It was 
> perhaps not scary in September of 2012, when we didn't know anything.
> Also. It makes me wonder things when, for example, you say "Think 
> bigger" while pointing to a couple of potential dollars in someone's 
> pocket. Safeguarding the operators of the exit relays is a bigger deal 
> than chump change. I'm not making an honest accusation but, to the 
> people who are the most vocal in approving of this - you don't work 
> for the NSA, right? :)

....this is probably about making it easier for big exit operators to afford lawyers for when 'they' come around using the law as 'their' tool.  :/  If your BW bill is paid, more $$$ to keep you out of jail.

Best,
-Gordon M.
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