Re: [tor-relays] New exit node

Olaf “which you can use for your own purposes (with only 10% of the bandwidth given to Tor)

Not worth the risk.   I did do that. I had a server with our email and old business web pages, so I wondered what should I do with the spare capacity? Hand 50% over to Tor.  Felt good.

Alas you cannot run an exit that way, as just as risky in many ways as running it from home.  It will look as your own data is coming from a Tox exit.   The ISP can kill your server at any time, and take your stuff with it.

So you have to run it from a second IP on your server, but that costs, still risky of ISP closing it all down. I got away with it for a few years, but just last week, after an automated abuse complaint and idiotic IT team, I lost my nerve and moved that exit to another server, which was nowadays costs only a little more than second IP address.

Gerry

From: tor-relays <tor-relays-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Olaf Grimm
Sent: 16 September 2018 21:58
To: tor-relays@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [tor-relays] New exit node

DigitalOzean and Vultr is new for me and I check these offers.

I want diversity. My Problem now are the languages of the provider homepages in South America. Not all of them are easy to translate with google translator. And what I can do in case of an abuse case? How to reply? Pages in Asia have an English translation.

Thanks for the recommendations. I try it.
A bridge with less traffic on the Philippines? Low traffic should work... Hm. Think, think... Later.

Olaf

Am 16.09.2018 um 19:16 schrieb Matthias Fetzer:

Hello Olaf,

OVH, DigitalOcean and Vultr have servers in Singapore.

While this would probably add to geographic diversity,

I am unsure if it's a good idea to run more relays

in those AS.

On the other hand, I run several OVH-Relays at different

geographi locations.

Best regards,

Matthias

On 09/16/2018 05:18 PM, Olaf Grimm wrote:

Roman, ignore this people.

Do you have an intention for a relay in APAC? I looking for a provider

in Asia with unlimited bandwith / traffic. I've found nothing,

Or other recommendations? Maximum of 15$ is desired.

Or South America. or Africa. Outside of Tor-overloaded areas.

Want to reach my goal of 10 relays...

Olaf

Am 16.09.2018 um 17:03 schrieb Roman Mamedov:

On Sun, 16 Sep 2018 13:40:50 +0000

livak <livak@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

it would be nice to find financial help to make the tor network grow faster.

You need to put things in perspective, and then consider how your request

looks to an outside observer. What you have is a relay:

  - at OVH, which is oversaturated with relays by any measure;

  - only 10 Mbit (seems hard-capped), even though you get unmetered 100 Mbit

    on your server;

  - IPv4-only, while OVH does provide IPv6;

To summarize, this is the worst location to start a new relay (some would say

adding more relays at OVH does more harm than good), the bandwidth is capped

ridiculously low, and you didn't even put much thought into setting it up.

It seems that you think you found a way to set up a tiny relay on the side,

exploit gullible people to pay you for it, and enjoy not only a paid-off

server (after all the fee is as low as 4 EUR per month[1]) which you can use

for your own purposes (with only 10% of the bandwidth given to Tor), but also

some free money on top.

Considering that many of us pay for multiple relays out of our own pocket --

actual fast ones with hundreds megabits at non-trivial locations -- and don't

run the first thing to the mailing list begging for money, your behavior is

nothing but disgusting.

[1] https://www.kimsufi.com/fr/serveurs.xml

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