On 2015-04-17 13:36, nusenu wrote:
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA512 Thanks for your effort. - From a "customer" perspective I'm missing some crucial information on your website: - - what bandwidth (mbps or TB per month) does this relay add to the network? (I understand that it is hard to estimate but if the data plan allows only lets say 1TB per month you should make that clear) - - am I adding an exit or non-exit relay? More experienced "customers" might want to know: - - What characteristics has the relay? how much memory? - - Where are you going to run the sponsored relay? AS? Country? hosting provider? from your first relay: AS393406, US, Digital Ocean - - What OS are you going to use? (apparently Linux) - - Can I select location/OS/bw/.. ?- - Do you provide bw monitoring and traffic stats? (i.e. munin and vnstat) - - Can I choose to run 2 instances per server? (which results in more traffic) I understand that you might want to keep this website simple since you target non-technical persons but providing that information wouldn't hurt. It doesn't have to be on the main page. I hope you also consider the following points: - - proper automatic MyFamily configuration on all your relays - - keep your relays up to date - - network and platform diversity (this becomes more relevant once you run a substantial part of the tor network) - run relays in non-top x countries/ASes/... by consensus weight https://compass.torproject.org - run non-Linux relays https://metrics.torproject.org/platforms.html Do you "pre-run" relays and rename them as soon as they are "ordered" to reduce the bootstrap phase? -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVMWClAAoJEFv7XvVCELh0aa0P/A/8PpBHnF6o1i0x/cXJHOj7 UrWwZARNBpeIWrov2vs/3TsDEABEQiEe6/c4UIKrzYvJbAssEH6AyoWcfARCv+uo zwU9HXdty7VZZDIqOTLBi7YZ+1ri1EEW8/ZhUOwk/aETgOVSrQE3BDbzmVZaqWbp 94cReiR9lbRH2CJGPP0Eo5WzLImTN/Qo70kmUZ8bJRYK1VyWhZ27+c5bI8cKu8/Y OxoTZRr7MkKH1egPE6+c8lo1vruysHjN9ZWHWmGkZeREQw7ZYk4WaoCD6fq0awFX TK+I2T/ePgHUegR8jdPB2n60F2KYjC47ATPO7cXyO+Lgo6foqppNFti8V1a9pJja SKuP5Cgy98lgHheGMwphu33k5yjWg3B8Nkv0tgDQh/dprYaQGLqGLRxGpqCXrl3l nMLbHungWsIZtdrLb+hmxJIpUFcBrnAZmSuHa0W2sV5uatup2ndOAxjPOZ4iLwRg 8wYUBQP4Z5MtQI8ECTZkd4FTj9jOMbg7768zqaLeNK/HOxbrCViY5cjmhIckhcit iiTrWYWtksk2X4/tbh+OenUeyBLiSbB/6aYADylVR08fEoFPh3cGT5e8eHUaO1sp tBUvpPo1Hq39gd5K+BElO9AKl/q++RuL5QpPWVwYDdyguyymvsd4lFx3o4kEm+me j8GCv9tpkKSDnj3jcxFE =zA/v -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
Appreciate the feedback. As you noted the primary target was someone who might not know really what bandwidth is, how much memory, etc but I can see your point where some potential customers might like to have that information. If nothing else it might help validate the $65 cost. I'll try to answer some of those questions here and think about how the info could be integrated into the site itself.
- Bandwidth: the instances being used come with 1000TB per month. This has been set as the cap in the torrc file so each instance can in theory use all 1000TB before it stops passing traffic.
- The instances are currently being setup with DigitalOcean which does not allow exit relays so only non-exit relays are being created.
- Each relay is SSD based (20gigs), comes with 1 "cpu" (these are virtual instances) and 512mb of RAM
- Currently all instances are provisioned in the United States but the plans are to use every DC that DigitalOcean has available which means with a minor change to the code instances could also be deployed in the Netherlands, Germany, England and Singapore. Eventually the goal is to bring in other providers outside of DigitalOcean to expand the possible footprint.
- You are correct, the OS is Linux :)- We do not provide any stats at this time. Something that has been discussed though was a possible page that showed all relays customers had sponsored with some bandwidth stats next to them. It would be more of a novelty than anything, nothing for real system type monitoring.
- As far as running two relays on one instance, that is not an option right now. The way it works is there is an image I created that is a basic Linux image with the Tor client installed. When someone sponsors a relay through the site an API call is made to spin up a new instance based on this image. During the API call some cloud-init data is passed to a small script on the image which handles setting up the torrc file with the correct relay name and contact notes. At that point a new fingerprint is generated and the Tor client is restarted. Since these are SSD based the time from payment to running is typically about a minute assuming everything behind the scenes at DigitalOcean is happy. It would certainly be possible to run two relays on a single instance but would introduce a bit more complexity that I'll need to look into.
- In all honesty, the MyFamily option is something that I didn't think would really apply to this as the goal is to never actually login to these boxes. I do see though how that could make people feel uneasy since technically SponsorPrivacy will be the "owners" of all of these. I will bump that to the top of the TODO list so we can start dynamically updating that setting as new instances are provisioned. Consider that the first bug :)
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