Re: [tor-talk] Clarification of Tor's involvement with DARPA's Memex

[benjamin barber <barberb@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

There is the implication that the tor network can be used for exactly that
with some of the side projects that are using tor. Or that using a Tails
USB stick is a little like a holy talisman against the evil NSA, when in
reality its only really suitable for accessing censored content.

On Sat, Apr 25, 2015 at 7:14 PM, Tempest <tempest@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> aka:
> > The common user does not apply to all threat models. If you are a high
> > volume recreational drug salesman, you must expect 0days and snitches.
>
> if you're a drug salesman, you're a different type of criminal that has
> high value to multiple law enforcement agencies. personally, i don't
> care about helping such players learn the game better.
>
> > If you however are merely a recreational drug consumer, Tor can cover
> > all of your security risks, because only low cost automated
> > investigation will be used against you.
>
> and it's utterly worthless when you give a black market salesman a
> mailing address. something the nsa likely couldn't care less about.
>
> > There are many ways to implement better anoynmity than Tor at a useful
> > scale, if low latency is sacrificed.
>
> low latency does not need to be sacrificed. a different opsec game needs
> to be played if you have information that a global adversary would care
> to prosecute you for. i personally don't care for two-bit criminals. but
> people who have evidence of crimes by global adversaries? they need to
> be able to learn how to share evidence without fear of prosecution. tor
> alone won't do that, and the tor project has never claimed otherwise,
> which makes a lot of the recent hysteria i've seen about tor
> particuliarly annoying.
>
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