Re: [tor-talk] Tor Gateway and Tor Workstation by ra [was: remove any all links from torproject.com to JanusVM]

[Praedor <praedor@xxxxxxxxx>]

Not to load more work on the tor developers but...

Couldn't the tor project simply make another bundle available but this one intended for use in a VM?  Take a basic debian (or whatever linux flavor) system, made up of just what is needed and add tor to it.  The intention being for people to download it and run it in a VM and use that as their means of accessing the tor network on their system.  Requirement being they install/have installed virtualbox or other VM app to install it into.

Too much work?  I used to play with JanusVM but couldn't get it working as my gateway for some reason (ignorance on my part towards the machinations of VMs).

praedor

On Friday, January 20, 2012 06:41:18 AM proper@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> > Is Ra's Tor gateway VM
> > <http://ra.fnord.at/2011/05/easy-and-secure-anonymous-internet-usage/>
> > safe to use on trusted host machines?
> 
> I wouldn't use it. This story is similar to JanusVM.
> https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/JanusVM
> 
> Dunno when ra last time updated the software package but the blog entry
> was last edited May 29, 2011 while latest Tor release is from December
> 16th, 2011. Which means ra's package probable does not contain the latest
> version of Tor.
> 
> Many people (ra, JanusVM, me) are interested in deploying something ra
> calls 'Tor Workstation', which might not be the most bad name. (an
> isolated machine which routes everything transparently through Tor)
> 
> As long as this project isn't an official Tor package it seams somewhat
> difficult to keep it as current as the latest Tor release. People get busy
> with their lives, forget about the project or loose interest. Problematic
> thing about this is that Tor users will still find old discussions on
> Google and still download and use potentially dangerous old Tor versions.
> 
> > It's an OpenWRT VM with virtual LAN
> > routed through Tor.
> >
> >  It seems to borrow from the Torouter project
> > <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/Torouter>. One of the
> > Torouter's prototypes uses OpenWRT
> > <https://trac.torproject.org/projects/tor/wiki/doc/OpenWRT>. But Torouter
> > is a hardware device that provides WiFi access to Tor (and serves as a
> > bridge) whereas Ra's Tor gateway is a VM. Is that a crucial difference?
> 
> I would say so. Of course it is always better if you do not use virtual
> machines but therefore extra real hardware.
> 
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