Re: [tor-talk] Torified Mobile Experience

[Nathan Freitas <nathan@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Fri, Jan 1, 2016, at 07:22 PM, Spencer wrote:
> About a year ago, a discussion touched on what could be TorPhone, or 
> PhOnion, or whatever.
> 
> Following up with this, I find Mike Perry's original post is still 
> alive:
> 
> https://blog.torproject.org/blog/mission-impossible-hardening-android-security-and-privacy
> 
> But it has been upgraded to a formal project:
> 
> https://github.com/mission-impossible-android/mission-impossible-android

I would call that an unofficial formal project, but yes, really happy
that project is happening. I think it is the right approach.

> TOMY seems to be back burnered, which is fine given the growth of the 
> Guardian Project F-Droid repo over the past year:
> 
> https://dev.guardianproject.info/projects/libro/wiki/Tomy_Detachable_Secure_Mobile_System

Most of our energy got taken up with Orfox / Tor Browser and Pluggable
Transport porting, as well as work on the secure camera project, and our
new effort on mobile developer infrastructure,
deterministic/reproduceability and so on. All of this ultimately
contributes to projects like TOMY and MIA, but for now the idea of
booting a TAILS-like experience from an SD or USB drive is still not
widely practical.

> I inquired about the state of this and the briefly lived GuardianROM and 
> was redirected to Mike Perry's original post.
> 
> Since then, there seems to be some development that could be of interest 
> to followers of this topic:
> 
> NetHunter
> https://www.kali.org/kali-linux-nethunter/
> 
> AOSParadox
> http://www.xda-developers.com/aosparadox-a-new-rom-for-the-oneplus-one-with-a-fresh-perspective/
> https://github.com/AOSParadox
> 
> Both of these seem like easy targets; others would know better.

A few more related, interesting ideas:
https://copperhead.co/android/
https://people.torproject.org/~ioerror/skunkworks/moto_e/

> 
> Thoughts on this or the status of similar things?  Is anybody doing this 
> or something different?  I feel like there is an OS guarded secretly 
> under development :)

No secrets, just many smart people chipping away at a very big problem.
I think some of us have also been thinking about whether Android is the
best solution to build upon, or if we should look towards booting TAILS
on Windows Mobile hardware, or an Ubuntu mobile type solution (Qubes
Mobile?), or even maybe something based on Pi Zero or Project CHIP
device. 
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1598272670/chip-the-worlds-first-9-computer

Thanks for keeping hope alive, and keeping the interest going. I think
MIA on a Moto, Nexus or 1+1 is the best turnkey option right now.

+n
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