Re: [tor-talk] Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military

[Alexandre Guillioud <guillioud.alexandre@xxxxxxxxx>]

Guy, this could be reversed.
Tor has limitations ? Make a pretty infographics on the subject and move
on.
It's not by using these kind of "epistomologique" principle that you'll
educate the mass.

My point is you are putting your head into the oven by doing what you do :
you don't want to teach, you want to impress with pretty words.

My question was, what do you mean by controlled opposition ?
Answer you gived me was "there is no proof but you know, i'm sure they are
doing it ! Follow me, trust me, i said it".

Le jeudi 30 juillet 2015, Juan <juan.g71@xxxxxxxxx> a Ãcrit :

> On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 22:56:33 +0200
> Alexandre Guillioud <guillioud.alexandre@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> > I would risk a dumb question : how can it be 'controlled opposition"
> > when their (NSA) capacities to listen to whoever they want on tor
> > havn't been demonstrated nor refuted ?
>
>
>         Have you ever heard or read this sentence :  "Absence of
>         evidence is not evidence of absence" ?
>
>         It's not just some kind of cute casse-langue. It's a basic
>         epistemologic principle, if you will.
>
>
>         Do you think the fact that you(and I) know almost nothing about
>         what the nsa does means they do nothing?
>
>
>         Ever heard of a guy called Snowden? How much stuff has he
>         allegedly gotten from the nsa? And what percentage of that
>         stuff has been releaseed to the public?   Do you want me to
>         spell the implications more clearly?
>
>         Also, you can even search this list for posts by syverson
>         commenting on tor 'limitations'
>
>
>
>
> >
> > Le mercredi 29 juillet 2015, Juan <juan.g71@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;>> a
> Ãcrit :
> >
> > > On Wed, 29 Jul 2015 12:32:56 +0000
> > > Virgil Griffith <i@xxxxxxxxx <javascript:;> <javascript:;>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > >>      Historically speaking, what was the U.S. navy /military
> > > >>      ntending to use Tor for?
> > >
> > > me:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Exactly the same things they use it for right now.
> > > >
> > > >       Communications for their murdering operations, spying,
> > > >       propaganda.
> > > >
> > > >       Spread of american fascism.
> > >
> > >
> > >         addendum : a Pretty Good Name (PGN) and description for tor
> > > is 'controlled opposition'.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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