Re: [tor-talk] Digital IDs needed to end 'mob rule' online, says UK security minister Ben Wallace - Digital IDs should be brought in to end online anoymity that permits "mob rule" and lawlessness online, the securit

[Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>]

It would be nice to see some bad journalists disappearing or elites. Who
want to blame israel.

On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Interesting the elites have a spear campaign going on against Israel
>
> Killing al-Najjar, who clearly posed no threat to its soldiers, made it
> difficult for Israel’s army to argue that its snipers targeted only
> “rioters” in Gaza and did not fire indiscriminately at peaceful protesters,
> journalists, and medics.
>
> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 3:13 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
>
>> It is like they are saying they want the apocalypse without saying it by
>> really saying it (anonymous) that's their way of asking, and christians who
>> are good christians and israel says "yes come Lord"
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:28 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I mean for example historically the people of Canaan worshipped God but
>>> Canaan was cursed. And it was about the place of the Hittites and
>>> Canaanites who were slaughtered. But they worshipped the same God.
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:23 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> In fact I would imagine given the content and staining and such it
>>>> would make it more sure that He wants to do it.
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:21 AM Kevin Burress <speakeasysky@xxxxxxxxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Well I just want to bring up that should it be the end Yahweh may want
>>>>> to use anonymity to not reveal Himself to the masses.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Mon, Jun 11, 2018, 2:19 AM grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sun, Jun 10, 2018 at 12:08 PM, Ben Tasker <ben@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >>
>>>>>> https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/online-digital-identification-mob-rule-online-security-minister-ben-wallace-a8390841.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > As I see it, there are two complimentary ways to fight it
>>>>>> .
>>>>>> > Firstly, explain (again) why it's a stupid and flawed idea.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> History shows that method always loses long term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > Second, keep building and supporting systems that help protect
>>>>>> privacy and
>>>>>> > anonymity online. That means running more tor relays as well as
>>>>>> developing
>>>>>> > new privacy friendly services etc. Essentially, make sure there are
>>>>>> > alternatives that cannot be affected by whatever half-baked
>>>>>> implementation
>>>>>> > they try to foist on us.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tools themselves will not stop the continual foisting that always wins
>>>>>> long term.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Note this UK US scam has been spooling up for a wider G7 drop for a
>>>>>> while now...
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037851.html
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-March/036940.html
>>>>>> https://lists.cpunks.org/pipermail/cypherpunks/2017-May/037948.html
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The subject problem is that government is now redundant to your own
>>>>>> better
>>>>>> capabilities as human beings, now evolved and connected to the wealth
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> instant global knowledge and comms. There's no longer a need for such
>>>>>> a
>>>>>> central store of knowledge, action, and programming that, among other
>>>>>> things,
>>>>>> says that murder and theft are good, since now you can go online and
>>>>>> see
>>>>>> that it is plainly bad, and contribute to better together, directly.
>>>>>> The solution is thus to go further this time and finally discontinue
>>>>>> that old redundant system.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That connectedness is a "mob rule" they speak of... more properly a
>>>>>> "decentralized" mode, with voluntarist, anarchist, libertarian
>>>>>> flavors, coordinated
>>>>>> under realtime feedback for good... an unexpected result (to their
>>>>>> geriatric
>>>>>> selves and their decades expired models and thinking) of the true
>>>>>> power
>>>>>> of the Internet now arrived... a curiously interesting process taking
>>>>>> shape
>>>>>> globally... a discussion.. an exploration of alternative models, of
>>>>>> local
>>>>>> and self governance, an elimination of redundancy and inefficiency,
>>>>>> reclamation and redeployment of all things ceded.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So of course they want to "Digital ID" that, to censor it, balkanize,
>>>>>> shape,
>>>>>> track, control, criminalize, and shut it down.... before they
>>>>>> themselves are.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fact that they've resorted to deploying worldwide surveillance,
>>>>>> the Four Horsemen of the Infocalypse FUD and more, spinning
>>>>>> it out 24x365 nonstop now in survival mode, shows they know their
>>>>>> own end is coming.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Make, keep and use tools... "systems that help protect privacy and
>>>>>> anonymity online... develop new privacy friendly services etc"...
>>>>>> not just to hide and shield from the foisting, but to fix and learn
>>>>>> new thinking, thus ending it for good.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The math is simpler than crypto...
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6b70TUbdfs
>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVEzdh4PMDI
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