Re: I am at my wits end, I cant register for account at digg.com using tor

[defcon <defconoii@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yes fortunately not all libraries log although if they are funded by
state and federal governments they most likely allow these
state/federal governments log into their systems, also many public
libraries are not very secure that I have been to and could easily be
backdoored on the library network itself or simply logged through the
libraries gateway.  As for the nsa logging networks, I have seen most
networks affiliated with the nsa according to cryptome but are they a
very reputable resource for information like this?  The only network I
feel safe with is qwest communications, they have actively refused to
give logs and access to their network to the feds.  But the gateways
exiting their networks like at&t are surely logged as well as verizon,
covad and a few other usa networks.  The use for tor is mandatory to
feel safer with a great possibility of these issues.
-defcon

On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Kasimir Gabert <kasimir.g@[gmail].com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM, defcon <defconoii@[gmail].com> wrote:
>  > I completely agree, the purpose for tor is to keep your browsing
>  >  private, I dont think using digg anywhere is a privacy concern unless
>  >  you are digging illegal content that can be used against you.  The
>  >  only reason I use tor is to bypass company firewalls and to anonymize
>  >  my browsing when I am surfing on sites that could be used against me
>  >  or sites that nobody has business in knowing I went to.  Tor can be
>  >  used to expose governments to wrong doings and exercising free speech
>  >  when others may not grasp that concept and use what you do against
>  >  you.  If you are a blogger and you may offend the government or
>  >  organizations and these gov's/org's decide to get a court order to get
>  >  your ip address you are screwed without using tor, at least using tor
>  >  you can safely do things without too much scrutiny.  Now the
>  >  government has 90% of the worlds dns servers logged and isp's
>  >  backbones building up browsing habits like they do at libraries.
>  >  Every time you go to a public library everything you read is recorded
>  >  and the fbi/cia/nsa/and other nations gov's have access to that
>  >  information.  It is very possible and very probable that the
>  >  government is doing these things.  So if you want to exclude yourself
>  >  from these databases use tor.
>  >  -defcon
>
>  This is not the case with all libraries.  There are several libraries
>  (granted, smaller libraries) through which I have discussed this
>  thoroughly with the managers.  They take special care to destroy all
>  records of books that were checked out after they have been
>  successfully checked back in, and any fines have been paid.  I do not
>  feel that it this is uncommon practice.
>
>  Also, logging a DNS server is potentially not what you mean.  ISPs
>  keep logs, and will turn them over to the government more freely than
>  I feel comfortable with.
>
>  Of course, I have heard stories that the NSA logs lots and lots of
>  Internet traffic.  All I can contribute here is speculation, however.
>  :)
>
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>  >
>  >  On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Dieter Zinke <dieterzinke@[yahoo].com> wrote:
>  >  > > Enabling javascript may display the CAPTCHA, but
>  >  >  > exposes you to attacks
>  >  >  > and lowers your anonimity chances.
>  >  >  >
>  >  >
>  >  >  Right. But be realistic, even if you are surfing the
>  >  >  CIA' s website or to top it the FBI (have more VEDA if
>  >  >  you know what that is), they wouldn' t sniff you. Why
>  >  >  should they? And if, what are the sniffed infos worth?
>  >  >  In most cases nearly NULL!
>  >  >
>  >  >  To me it is pure nonsense to use tor and try to
>  >  >  register with digg. That is idiotic to me!
>  >  >
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