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>    1. Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (Bry8 Star)
>    2. Re: Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (SiNA Rabbani)
>    3. Re: Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (SiNA Rabbani)
>    4. Re: Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (Leo Unglaub)
>    5. Re: Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (Andrew Lewman)
>    6. Re: What would Tor v1.0 look like? (georgeofthejungle)
>    7. Re: What would Tor v1.0 look like? (grarpamp)
>    8. Re: Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ? (Bry8 Star)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:47:50 -0700
> From: Bry8 Star <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
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> Hi,
> Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing list,
> i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins (minutes)
> or later, almost never in shorter time period than that !
>
> why is that ?
>
> whereas my other emails when sent toward CentOS or RedHat or any
> other Mailing list, after posting i need at max 45 seconds to see it
> back in my INBOX or inside their pre-assigned folder.
> By the way, even my emails inside "Spam", and "Bilk Mail" folders,
> goes through Filter Rules, so any important emails are picked up
> from there and moved inside their assigned folder.
>
> Anybody else noticing these ! ?
>
> -- Bright Star.
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:57:41 -0700
> From: SiNA Rabbani <sina@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
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> My email don't take that like long. I almost get a confirmation of my post
> immediately.
> On Mar 15, 2013 6:55 AM, "Bry8 Star" <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing list,
> > i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins (minutes)
> > or later, almost never in shorter time period than that !
> >
> > why is that ?
> >
> > whereas my other emails when sent toward CentOS or RedHat or any
> > other Mailing list, after posting i need at max 45 seconds to see it
> > back in my INBOX or inside their pre-assigned folder.
> > By the way, even my emails inside "Spam", and "Bilk Mail" folders,
> > goes through Filter Rules, so any important emails are picked up
> > from there and moved inside their assigned folder.
> >
> > Anybody else noticing these ! ?
> >
> > -- Bright Star.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700
> From: SiNA Rabbani <sina@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
> Message-ID:
>         <
> CAA8U0RS6UU11PnSQNdLKD_1JwpGcwmm3r8+bD0XV2E01oWrE7g@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Sorry for the typos, combination of autosuggestion, no glasses and crappy
> touch keyboard :)
>
> I am also including the time here to see how long before I receive this.
> 7:02
>
> Apparently posts to other Tor mailing lists are delivered quicker than
> tor-talk.
> On Mar 15, 2013 6:57 AM, "SiNA Rabbani" <sina@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > My email don't take that like long. I almost get a confirmation of my
> post
> > immediately.
> > On Mar 15, 2013 6:55 AM, "Bry8 Star" <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi,
> >> Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing list,
> >> i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins (minutes)
> >> or later, almost never in shorter time period than that !
> >>
> >> why is that ?
> >>
> >> whereas my other emails when sent toward CentOS or RedHat or any
> >> other Mailing list, after posting i need at max 45 seconds to see it
> >> back in my INBOX or inside their pre-assigned folder.
> >> By the way, even my emails inside "Spam", and "Bilk Mail" folders,
> >> goes through Filter Rules, so any important emails are picked up
> >> from there and moved inside their assigned folder.
> >>
> >> Anybody else noticing these ! ?
> >>
> >> -- Bright Star.
> >>
> >>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> tor-talk mailing list
> >> tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
> >>
> >>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 17:44:54 +0100
> From: Leo Unglaub <leo@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
> Message-ID: <51435006.90800@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hey,
>
> On 2013-03-15 14:47, Bry8 Star wrote:
> > Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing
> > list, i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins
> > (minutes) or later, almost never in shorter time period than that
> > !
>
> the torproject propobly uses greylisting for SPAM detection. If your
> outgoing SMTP Relay changes alot is simply takes some time to re-send
> the email. Thats totaly normal. Emails are not build for real-time
> communication.
>
> Greetings
> Leo
>
> --
> Leo Unglaub
> Nachreihengasse 39 / Top 7
> A-1170 Vienna
> Austria
>
> Phone: 0650 / 6575103
> Website: http://www.leo-unglaub.net
> Twitter: http://twitter.com/LeoUnglaub
>
> Send with Mozilla Thunderbird on Linux (Debian)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 13:00:22 -0400
> From: Andrew Lewman <andrew@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
> Message-ID: <20130315130022.7f62fcd0@kilik>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
>
> On Fri, 15 Mar 2013 06:47:50 -0700
> Bry8 Star <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> > Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing list,
> > i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins (minutes)
> > or later, almost never in shorter time period than that !
> >
> > why is that ?
>
> Read your mail server logs. Yes, we use postgrey[0] universally to
> frustrate spammers. It works better than anything else we've tried.
>
> [0] http://postgrey.schweikert.ch/
>
> --
> Andrew
> http://tpo.is/contact
> pgp 0x6B4D6475
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 10:26:07 -0700
> From: georgeofthejungle <george_of_the_jungle@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] What would Tor v1.0 look like?
> Message-ID:
>         <
> 1363368367.26157.140661204851917.766B6ACB@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> Content-Type: text/plain
>
>
> On Thu, Mar 14, 2013, at 12:24 PM, Nick Mathewson wrote:
> > On Wed, Mar 6, 2013 at 6:12 PM, georgeofthejungle
> > <george_of_the_jungle@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I've been using Tor for many years now (when Tor was hosted by EFF),
> and
> > > I love how fast and far Tor is progressing, as well as other Tor
> Project
> > > projects (e.g., TorBrowser and TorButton). I've always wondered what it
> > > would take for Tor to be called v1.0, e.g., how different would that
> Tor
> > > be vs. the current Tor?
> >
> > Personally, I've been thinking we should just drop the leading "0" for
> > the first release to become stable after this fall, in honor of the
> > tenth anniversary of our first public release.  (Assuming I'm counting
> > right)
> >
> > Once I thought there was such a thing as being "done" with all this
> > stuff, and that kind of "done" would be called "1.0".  Now I think
> > there's always more challenges and opportunities, and so on.
> >
> > peace,
> > --
> > Nick
>
> Hi,
>
> Your last sentence reminds me of a quote I read somewhere (not
> verbatim):
>
> "When I was young I thought life was a sprint, when I was middle-aged I
> thought life was a marathon, when I was old I realized life if a relay
> race." :)
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:07:56 -0400
> From: grarpamp <grarpamp@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] What would Tor v1.0 look like?
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> >   Has it been ten years already?
>
> Just about I'd guess. I remember surfing around a few overlay project
> sites in early 2000's.
>
> Anyone remember when and what were the first ten hidden services?
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 11:30:29 -0700
> From: Bry8 Star <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Does TorProject Delay eMail Postings ?
> Message-ID: <514368C5.4060304@xxxxxxxxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi SiNA,
> your message what i received via torproject mailing list, in its
> header fields (email-source), i can see following time stamp related
> data:
>
>
> Received: from 127.0.0.1  (EHLO eugeni.torproject.org) (38.229.72.13)
>   by mta1346.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:40:56
> -0700
> Received: from eugeni.torproject.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>         by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DBD825870;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:40:55 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1])
>         by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C6E382586C
>         for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:02:52 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from eugeni.torproject.org ([127.0.0.1])
>         by localhost (eugeni.torproject.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new,
>         port 10024)
>         with ESMTP id A2f7Nn+84Urn for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:02:52 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: from mail-ve0-f175.google.com (mail-ve0-f175.google.com
>         [209.85.128.175]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits))
>         (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com",
>         Issuer "Google Internet Authority" (not verified))
>         by eugeni.torproject.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A6D0922ED3
>         for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 14:02:52 +0000 (UTC)
> Received: by mail-ve0-f175.google.com with SMTP id cy12so2585184veb.6
>         for <tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
> X-Received: by 10.52.100.163 with SMTP id
> ez3mr6082826vdb.6.1363356169348;
>         Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Received: by 10.220.245.1 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700
> (PDT)
> Received: by 10.220.245.1 with HTTP; Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700
> (PDT)
> Date: Fri, 15 Mar 2013 07:02:49 -0700
>
> from top see the 2nd and 3rd header:
> one has 14:40 another has 14:02
> ! ?
>
> By the way, the initial/first query/posting message for this exact
> thread, which i sent, i did received it back, very quickly ... but
> abnormally.
>
> -- Bright Star.
>
>
>
> Received from SiNA Rabbani, on 2013-03-15 7:02 AM:
> > Sorry for the typos, combination of autosuggestion, no glasses and crappy
> > touch keyboard :)
> >
> > I am also including the time here to see how long before I receive this.
> > 7:02
> >
> > Apparently posts to other Tor mailing lists are delivered quicker than
> > tor-talk.
> > On Mar 15, 2013 6:57 AM, "SiNA Rabbani" <sina@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> >> My email don't take that like long. I almost get a confirmation of my
> post
> >> immediately.
> >> On Mar 15, 2013 6:55 AM, "Bry8 Star" <bry8star@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi,
> >>> Almost everytime i post an email message in TorProject mailing list,
> >>> i get that email back to my folder after at-least 18 mins (minutes)
> >>> or later, almost never in shorter time period than that !
> >>>
> >>> why is that ?
> >>>
> >>> whereas my other emails when sent toward CentOS or RedHat or any
> >>> other Mailing list, after posting i need at max 45 seconds to see it
> >>> back in my INBOX or inside their pre-assigned folder.
> >>> By the way, even my emails inside "Spam", and "Bilk Mail" folders,
> >>> goes through Filter Rules, so any important emails are picked up
> >>> from there and moved inside their assigned folder.
> >>>
> >>> Anybody else noticing these ! ?
> >>>
> >>> -- Bright Star.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> tor-talk mailing list
> >>> tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> >>> https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
> >>>
> >>>
> > _______________________________________________
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> > https://lists.torproject.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/tor-talk
> >
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