Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down

["Jim Smith" <jimsmitty@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

> This is some really bad news for the Tor network if the govs can locate
> that many people this easily ...
> 

Some of these people were probably being watched a long time before any of this happened. Phones were probably tapped and homes bugged. There's more ways to find out about a hidden service than attacking Tor.

A lot of good people rely on Tor. Hopefully this wasn't totally the result of a Tor network attack. 

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-------- Original Message --------
From: Blaise Gagnon <quebecfibe@xxxxxxxxx>
Apparently from: tor-talk-bounces@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services,most DarkNet markets are down
Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2014 13:13:21 -0500

> This is some really bad news for the Tor network if the govs can locate
> that many people this easily ...
> 
> 2014-11-06 12:48 GMT-05:00 mroq qorm <mroqorm@xxxxxxxxx>:
> 
> > On Thu, Nov 6, 2014 at 5:25 PM, Ãyvind Saether <oyvinds@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > > Because that completely explains why every other DarkNet market went
> > > down at the exact same time. Yes. And the FBI would never lie and find a
> > > hidden service one way and later claim they found it a another way, now
> > > would they?
> >
> > operations that involve multiple stings carried out simultaneously are
> > nothing new
> >
> > sure, parallel construction is a problem, also in the SR 1.0 case, but
> > let's not get ahead of ourselves and call tor into question again
> >
> > just seems as if the druggy hipsters are worse at opsec than the kiddy
> > porn people
> >
> > just imagine the positive press for LE if they SAVED THE CHILDREN
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