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Re: [tor-talk] Operation Onymous against hidden services, most DarkNet markets are down
On Fri, 7 Nov 2014 19:38:21 +0100
Ãyvind Saether <oyvinds@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > That is possible, but I'm not sure I'm fully following.
> > Suppose that some "off line" dealer has his phone tapped, and then
> > he starts selling through a market like silk road. What of it?
> > Why would that lead in any way to finding out who the hidden
> > service's owner/admin is? The hidden service's owner isn't
> > going to talk on the phone with the dealers who use his
> > site. That is not his 'business model'.
>
> Keep this quote in mind when you consider those idiotic "they must
> have found out that you were running a hidden service by tapping your
> phone because you were running a hidden service" circular arguments by
> obvious cointelpro:
Yes, that's more or less what I got from John's message, but I
don't mind giving him the benefit of the doubt and reading some
sort of clarification of his first post...
>
> âThis is something we want to keep for ourselves,â he said. âThe way
> we do this, we canât share with the whole world, because we want to
> do it again and again and again.â
Well, the criminal organization known as "US government" pretty
much acknowledges that their 'justice' system is based on
secret trials.
Again :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_construction
and
"DEA and NSA Team Up to Share Intelligence, Leading to Secret Use of
Surveillance in Ordinary Investigations"
https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2013/08/dea-and-nsa-team-intelligence-laundering
>
> http://www.wired.com/2014/11/operation-onymous-dark-web-arrests/
>
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