Re: RFC - first batch of OGRE images

[Mark Collins <me@thisisnurgle.org.uk>]

> Looks pretty good, but how would developers know which rating they can
> stick on their webpages? There was a post suggesting a bunch of checkboxes
> to describe content and the output was generated? but what one person might
> consider violent, another does not? is 'super mario' violent? some plumber
> is jumping on people heads and punching things...

Subjective, which is why you need clear guidelines for anything like this.

> Maybe we should have a centralized rating server with cgi's where end users
> can rate games, and the statistics of those go towards actually generating
> the ratings and 'levels'? Movies have groups of people who actually get
> paid to rate movies, we don't have the benefit of "experts" to do that for
> us. If the ratings are done by the developers, we might see some huge
> variance in what's considered ok and not ok, and that kinda blows the
> credibility.

Maintanance would become costly with a centralized server, which is something 
we probably can't afford if this is to become a standard.

> Does 'Adult' on the bar thing mean sexual content? that's unclear :) Is it
> a general catch-22 rating? I'm sure some parents would be unhappy with
> alcohol and drug use in games that their kids play, maybe a key for parents
> could be presented somewhere in plain dull boring text that kids'll skip?

That's why a standardized rating is needed. It's no good leaving it up to the 
develoeprs, 'cos their opinions may not be the same as a parents, or a 
fundimentalist xian ready to attack anything they disagree with (no offense 
to xians intended, of course).

I propose we establish a board of various people to decide what definitions 
each ratings have, and I'm not just talking about people from this list. I 
mean people from commercial developers and publishers.

Anyone agree with that?

If there's a consensus, I can get intouch with a few people (I deal with big 
names every day at work, so it wouldn't be hard to generate interest)

> that's all other stuff, tho, you're just looking for comment on the
> pictures :) I think the picture are pretty good, are the edges alpha'd? I
> think the edges/corners and shadow should be alpha'd so they look good on
> any color webpage :)

I'm not too sure on the images. They look a little sterile, and don't reflect 
the entertainment side of things. Maybe a picture of an Ogre in the 
background (yes, I'm going to milk the fact that I came up with the name, sue 
me)?

Nurgle