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Re: Bittorrent



On Fri, 2009-02-20 at 11:24 -0400, Freemor wrote:
> On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 15:36:12 +0100 (CET)
> "Marco Bonetti" <marco.bonetti@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Fri, February 20, 2009 15:02, Freemor wrote:
>  
> 
> > As you can see at
> > http://jonas.nitro.dk/bittorrent/bittorrent-rfc.html#anchor18 the "ip"
> > field is totally optional (many bt clients let you specify your real
> > ip, usually after you enable a proxy setting), the tracker will
> > identify your client with the "peer_id", the "port" values and what
> > you need from / have to offer to the swarm.
> 
> Many other clients do not let you sent the IP that get reported
> Transmission for example has the option to connect to the tracker
> through a proxy but no way to set what IP gets reported.
> 
> > The tracker response
> > (http://jonas.nitro.dk/bittorrent/bittorrent-rfc.html#anchor19) will
> > send you a list of peer_id/ip/port and your own entry will be
> > composed of your peer_id and and (non torified) port with the exit
> > node ip.  
> The way I read this it will be the IP that was reported to the Tracker
> that is included unless none was reported. So if your client is
> reporting an your IP address (optimal for transfers/ not optimal for
> privacy) 
> 
> >Data exchange is described at
> > http://jonas.nitro.dk/bittorrent/bittorrent-rfc.html#anchor21 as you
> > can read the peers only check if the peer_id is a valid one (it is in
> > the tracker response), not if the ip address is a known one, in this
> > way you keep on reporting torified ips to the tracker and the real ip
> > to the clients you connect to.
> 
> Peerid is used once the connection is established as we can see from
> the first paragraph in this section:
> 
> "Any remote peer wishing to communicate with the local peer must open a
> TCP connection to this port and perform a handshake operation. The
> handshake operation MUST be carried out before any other data is sent
> from the remote peer"
> 
> if the wrong IP address is specified (and defaulting to the exit node
> ip by having the client not report one results in a incorrect IP)
> People wont be able to connect to you at all (you'll be able to
> download but wont share much back)
> 
> So from what I see unless you stop you client from sending the IP or
> the client doesn't send it. then your proper IP will be reported to the
> tracker. If your client doesn't send your IP and you use tor You will
> end up in a state that makes your client a total leech?
> 
I doubt that. I use Tor as my tracker proxy in Deluge, and I'm still
able to immediately start seeding and keep a high share ratio.

I believe using Tor for the tracker proxy doesn't protect against
tracker scraping; it does protect against your ISP or tyrannical state
blocking a tracker (like Piratebay) and it makes just that much less
traffic on the Internet cleartext, which I think is a valuable goal in
itself. I don't have RFC's to back this up, just what I've read over
time.

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