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Re: I am at my wits end, I cant register for account at digg.com using tor
Yes fortunately not all libraries log although if they are funded by
state and federal governments they most likely allow these
state/federal governments log into their systems, also many public
libraries are not very secure that I have been to and could easily be
backdoored on the library network itself or simply logged through the
libraries gateway. As for the nsa logging networks, I have seen most
networks affiliated with the nsa according to cryptome but are they a
very reputable resource for information like this? The only network I
feel safe with is qwest communications, they have actively refused to
give logs and access to their network to the feds. But the gateways
exiting their networks like at&t are surely logged as well as verizon,
covad and a few other usa networks. The use for tor is mandatory to
feel safer with a great possibility of these issues.
On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:25 PM, Kasimir Gabert <kasimir.g@[gmail].com> wrote:
> On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 1:15 PM, defcon <defconoii@[gmail].com> wrote:
> > I completely agree, the purpose for tor is to keep your browsing
> > private, I dont think using digg anywhere is a privacy concern unless
> > you are digging illegal content that can be used against you. The
> > only reason I use tor is to bypass company firewalls and to anonymize
> > my browsing when I am surfing on sites that could be used against me
> > or sites that nobody has business in knowing I went to. Tor can be
> > used to expose governments to wrong doings and exercising free speech
> > when others may not grasp that concept and use what you do against
> > you. If you are a blogger and you may offend the government or
> > organizations and these gov's/org's decide to get a court order to get
> > your ip address you are screwed without using tor, at least using tor
> > you can safely do things without too much scrutiny. Now the
> > government has 90% of the worlds dns servers logged and isp's
> > backbones building up browsing habits like they do at libraries.
> > Every time you go to a public library everything you read is recorded
> > and the fbi/cia/nsa/and other nations gov's have access to that
> > information. It is very possible and very probable that the
> > government is doing these things. So if you want to exclude yourself
> > from these databases use tor.
> > -defcon
> This is not the case with all libraries. There are several libraries
> (granted, smaller libraries) through which I have discussed this
> thoroughly with the managers. They take special care to destroy all
> records of books that were checked out after they have been
> successfully checked back in, and any fines have been paid. I do not
> feel that it this is uncommon practice.
> Also, logging a DNS server is potentially not what you mean. ISPs
> keep logs, and will turn them over to the government more freely than
> I feel comfortable with.
> Of course, I have heard stories that the NSA logs lots and lots of
> Internet traffic. All I can contribute here is speculation, however.
> > On Thu, Mar 6, 2008 at 9:25 AM, Dieter Zinke <dieterzinke@[yahoo].com> wrote:
> > > > exposes you to attacks
> > > > and lowers your anonimity chances.
> > > >
> > >
> > > Right. But be realistic, even if you are surfing the
> > > CIA' s website or to top it the FBI (have more VEDA if
> > > you know what that is), they wouldn' t sniff you. Why
> > > should they? And if, what are the sniffed infos worth?
> > > In most cases nearly NULL!
> > >
> > > To me it is pure nonsense to use tor and try to
> > > register with digg. That is idiotic to me!
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> Kasimir Gabert