Re: [tor-talk] Private mail server (Was: i saw your response on the Tor TTFtalk list)

[Eugen Leitl <eugen@xxxxxxxxx>]

On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 04:40:11PM -0800, SiNA Rabbani wrote:
> The law enforcement needs a warrant to enter your home. So yep, at least

You're top-posting (see below). Please don't do that.

> you'll know about it.
> 
> I wonder if getting a warrant to pull a server from co-lo takes the same

While forensics can now splice into your power supply and
remove the server while it's still running (because otherwise
a crypto fs which needs a passphrase at boot would make
the confiscation quite useless), but of course they will
have to separate the system from the network, including
access to local heartbeat-like services.

> amount of effort and paperwork as getting a warrant to enter someone's home?

Either way you'll notice your server is down, even if you don't 
have a webcam in your rack.

> On Nov 18, 2012 4:26 PM, "Andrea Shepard" <andrea@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> 
> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2012 at 09:50:20AM +0100, Jérémy Bobbio wrote:
> > > There are some clear advantages of running your own email server
> > > regarding surveillance and overall control.
> > >
> > > If you have your own email server, you can decide of your logging
> > > policy; and not necessarily keep a trace of all your exchanges.
> >
> > Another advantage in this unpleasant age of warrantless searches and
> > NSLs - if Big Brother has taken an interest in your mail, you can be
> > sure *you will know about it*; with gmail they could be getting a copy
> > of all your messages and have a gag order prohibiting anyone from telling
> > you.
> >
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