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Re: [tor-talk] Troubleshooting failed Startpage connection [Was: still unable to reach StartPage or Ixquick]



On 10/9/2013 10:59 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
On 10/9/2013 8:00 PM, krishna e bera wrote:
On 13-10-09 07:14 PM, Joe Btfsplk wrote:
... in 3.0a4, ... there's no change in being unable to
connect to Startpage, Ixquick, DDG; often even Wikipedia -SSL & Google.

 in regular Fx, can connect to all of them instantly.

When you reinstalled or upgraded your TBB, did you remove the directory
first?  Sometimes a clean install gets rid of strange glitches leftover
from in place upgrades.

I never install TBB over the top of old versions or use an old profile.

Since it's done the same thing (starting > a wk ago in 2.3.25-12), now same exact thing in 2.3.25-13 & 3.0a4.
I can connect to Bing & Yahoo - in any TBB version I'm now trying.

I even have tabs open w/ the URLs already entered for Startpage, Ixquick, Google & say Bing, Yahoo AND any usual site. Google doesn't fail as much, but never had a problem w/ any of them before. So when Startpage, et al. fail, I instantly load another site (Mozilla.org, etc.) - which succeeds - using the same relay circuit. I checked w/ the network map open to make sure circuits weren't changing between the failures & successes.

One or 2x wouldn't mean anything, but I've repeated it dozens of times over many days w/ very consistent results. I also have Firefox open w/ the same site as TBB - say Startpage. When they fail in TBB, I instantly load it in regular Fx & loads every time. So the search sites' servers aren't overloaded - at least for normal internet traffic.

For a bit, I wondered if my ISP was slowing connections to Tor relays, but I don't have the TBB connection problem w/ most other sites, so that can't be it. I'm just brain storming. Thinking outside the box - what if I look at the problem from opposite direction. Instead of thinking as a problem of "Startpage, et al. not accepting Tor / TBB," look at it from a "Tor / TBB having problems with these sites" stance (Startpage, et al.).

There's obviously SOME reason, but not typical - given all the methods & versions I've used to rule out possibilities. Yahoo, Bing, Amazon, Ebay searches - together w/ the nsa, *must* be blocking me from other searches engines, forcing me to use them. Yeah, that must be it.

I assume? most users of WINDOWS TBB 2.3.25-12/13 that have read of my problem, have recently tried Startpage, Ixquick, DDG - & not really having any issues?

Would Tor message log posted here have anything useful that more experienced users may spot a problem? I looked at logs (w/ Debug, error, warning, notice turned on) for FAILED connection to Startpage / Ixquick & Check.torproject VS. good connection to other sites. Nothing obvious - others may see something.
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