Re: [tor-talk] How does Tor help abuse victims?

[Mirimir <mirimir@xxxxxxxxxx>]

On 10/06/2014 04:43 PM, garyr22@xxxxxxxxxxxxx wrote:
> The reason people find problems with Tor is because the importance of
> privacy is hidden in a mystery. Most people don't understand the
> reason Tor exist so, how can they judge it? The problem is that it's
> easier to focus on evil than it is to focus on good. The good Tor
> offers is much weightier than the bad. The good is harder to see
> because it's not as tangible as the bad. For those that understand
> the details behind the importance of privacy, the good is much
> weightier than the bad. This is just a matter of truly understanding
> the problem Tor was designed to handle. Can the people finding
> problems with Tor correctly describe problem Tor was designed to
> handle?

Some of them understand all too well, I think. What they actually oppose
are freedom and the right to privacy. The "evil users" that they focus
on are just strawmen. They embody the "problem [that] Tor was designed
to handle".

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> help abuse victims? Date: Mon, 6 Oct 2014 17:12:09 -0400
> 
>> On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:39 PM, z9wahqvh <z9wahqvh@xxxxxxxxx>
>> wrote:
>>>> On 2014-10-01 13:20, Sebastian G. <bastik.tor> wrote:
>> 
>>> the abuser ... he/she (mostly he)
>> 
>> Abuse knows no such boundaries, only statistics.
>> 
>>> The people I work with are writing about Tor, and so far, the
>>> negatives keep far outweighing the positives, meaning that the
>>> ultimate analysis is likely to draw negative conclusions.
>> 
>> That's because that's what they've grown and wish to see and
>> report, particularly in the news for ratings, and in negative
>> politics. Tor and the like are merely tools. As with statistics,
>> sometimes and with some subjects, you will be hard pressed to find
>> the alternative evidence you seek... daylight carries risk to good
>> as well. Yet if you can imagine it, it's there. Blue pill, red
>> pill... free your mind... whole new worlds of usage will open up.
>> That's where the oppurtunity for unique ratings worthy analysis,
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