[Computerbank] RE: Preinstalled Windows: AARGH! I can't get it off!

["Michael T. Cheshire" <michael.cheshire@microarts.com.au>]

I totall agree :)

I wasnt saying I agreed with M$, just trying to clarify what I thought they were saying.

Personally I think the whole M$ licencing thing sucks - hope they all get cancer and die painful deaths =)

M.

-----Original Message-----
From: Matthew Moyle-Croft [mailto:mmc@mmc.com.au]
Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 11:30 AM
To: Michael T. Cheshire
Cc: Romana Challans; Computerbank Australia Inc; LinuxSA
Subject: RE: Preinstalled Windows: AARGH! I can't get it off!


Hmm,
Does kind of beg the question:

What exactly defines the "hardware" as THE hardware?

The CPU?  
The Harddisk?
The motherboard?
The case?

Does this mean if I upgrade the CPU I'm no longer licensed?  If I use the 
CPU in another machine is it licensed or not?

What if I change the MB or Harddisk?  Heck, what if I change the case that 
the little evil "windows license tag" is attached to?

What if in fact I install a second harddrive and put linux on that?  

What if I attach a case badge that says "Linux Inside"?  The hardware 
changes, is that an issue????

If I buy a computer without a license (a Naked PC Rated R) and then glue the 
P133 from a machine that was licensed for Windows onto the top of the case, 
is it licensed?  Or is it now just a hedgehog?

Personally, I think Microsoft owe me.  I had countless days of my life 
wasted by their crap (not as many days as some poor people, but enough
all the same).

MMC


On Wed, 1 May 2002, Michael T. Cheshire wrote:

> I think you'll find what that is supposed to mean is that if you buy a PC with Windowz then the licence for Windowz must stay with the PC for life ie it cannot be transfered to another machine(s). I beleive they are saying this in the context that a donated PC should have a Windows licence as the pc was most likely sold with Windows. This doesnt mean you cant wipe the PCs and put Linux on - you'd just have a windows licence attatched to that PC which was not being used and could not be transfered.
> 
> M.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Romana Challans [mailto:romana@timelady.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 May 2002 10:46 AM
> To: Computerbank Australia Inc; LinuxSA
> Subject: Preinstalled Windows: AARGH! I can't get it off!
> 
> 
> http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/25085.html
> 
> If a PC shipped with Windows preinstalled, can you remove the OS and install 
> Linux instead? Well, no, according to Microsoft. A somewhat obscure Microsoft 
> site aimed at helping schools deal with donated computers flatly states: "It 
> is a legal requirement that pre-installed operating systems remain with a 
> machine for the life of the machine." 
> <snip>
> 
> the implications of this are, well, scary!
> if anyone can't get the rest of the article, let me know, i'll post it...
> 
> romana:)
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> Romana Challans
> Computerbank Australia  Incorporated -  SA branch coordinator
> http://www.linunix.com/cbsa/
> 
> "Between the idea and the reality,
> Between the motion and the act,
> Falls the Shadow..."
> (TS Eliot)
> ??????????????????????????????????????????????????
> 
> 

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Matthew
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