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Re: [Computerbank] Re: [cai-vic] What happened at the AGM?
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From: Romana Challans <romana@timelady.com>
Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2002 14:49:59 +1030
To: computerbank@lists.linux.org.au, "simeon scott" <simeonscott@iname.com>, dstone@trinity.unimelb.edu.au, cai-vic@lists.linux.org.au
Subject: Re: [Computerbank] Re: [cai-vic] What happened at the AGM?
> On Sat, 30 Nov 2002 04:18 am, simeon scott shared:
>
> > Romana - on the one hand you are saying you are the contact-point for these
> > types of grievences and therefore would know if there were objections to
> > the process you employed in determining the new executive.
> >
> > On the other hand you admit to being a party to these live back-room
> > dealings carried on at election-time.
> >
> > Excuse me, but WTF?!?!?!!!
>
> Simeon,
>
> I have never said I am 'THE' contact point, merely that, as a committee
> member, I would expect to be aware of any formal protest.
A contact point .. a part of the contact point. If someone has a greivence against you, can they air it? I personally don't know .. the point of my letter was to show how this matter looks to an outsider, and to say, I think that under the circumstances you as a group should not be waiting to hear someone complain before you review and air whatever occurred.
If I was a paid up member I would certainly be complaining, because all I have heard is that during an online AGM half the meeting was conducted 'out of camera' in a forum named #meta-backstabbers.
If you don't think that raises questions, you are deluding yourself.
> Your implication I was involved in some sort of voting impropriety are
> personally deeply insulting, and totally unfactual. I particpated in no
> voting not approved of at the time by the parties present, including the
> canditates for president, and as I believed to be part of the Constitution.
I'm sorry if you feel personally insulted .. as I said at the start of my previous response, my response was not aimed personally at you, I simply had no other information or pathway by which to comment. Certainly one person alone cannot have a meeting, so on those grounds alone if nothing else, my comments were not to single you out.
> I would never have participated in any irregularity if I was aware of it at
> the time.
Is this to say that there were irregularities that you were not aware of at the time? I don't understand what you yourself are now 'implying'.
> And despite mutterings, noone has made an formal complaint or a
> protest, and I would hope one is either made, or we can move on as an
> organsation.
Well, that's just my problem. I do want to see the organisation move on, but first half of your AGM has been 'offlined' and now the explanation of what occurred has also been carried out seemingly in private.
> Excuse me Simeon, but WTF indeed!
I don't know you or really the organisation and have very little to form an opinion by, I was trying to point out that whatever happened looks very insidious to those of us 'out of the loop'. The whole problem is that you have cut ordinary Computerbank people out.
If the matter has been dealt with by internal discussion, please say so, as a group on record. Not just 'oh - no-one seems to care'. Even if they do not care today, some day someone may look back and say 'WTF?!'
Simeon
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