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Re: gEDA-user: A little puzzled about the purpose of gschem



On Apr 29, 2010, at 12:48 AM, Gene Heskett wrote:
Well, you started out complaining about a 741 model. I'd call that
a very rare, obsolete part: I haven't actually seen one in a
circuit in over 30 years. I guess it's still in textbooks (read
Stephen J. Gould's rants about textbook authors' tendency to copy
from previous textbooks sometime), but why would anyone use it in a
new design?

  Very rare?!  I see 741s everywhere.  WTF?

Sorry to bust the bubble, but he's right. The 741 is well over 40 years old, and its open loop first response pole, where the 6db per octave rolloff begins, is a measly 10 hertz. Today there are $1.00 opamps with a working
gain of 20 when feedback is applied, with output slew rates of several
thousand volts per second.  Thats working bandwidth to several hundred
megahertz at the sort of levels found in either a modern broadcast audio mixer, or a production video switcher, and either of those are driving 60
ohms for audio, or 75 for video.

Slew rate limits alone in the 741 means you can't honestly ask it for more than a volt of output at full audio bandwidth. At 3 volts the slew rate distortion is so bad even these 75 year old ears can hear it. Even a TLO-72 or 74 can mop the floor with a 741, and output a +- 15 volt rail to rail
signal doing it, but into the old 600 ohm std load.

No bubbles to bust, I'm not particularly fond of the 741...yes there are definitely better opamps out there (I usually use OP07s as my general-purpose opamp) but that doesn't change the fact that I see 741s everywhere. They are far (VERY far) from rare.

             -Dave



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Dave McGuire
Port Charlotte, FL



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