Re: gEDA-user: Guerilla marketing...

[Steve Meier <smeier@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

This is a chicken and egg problem.

With revenue in the billions the major eda tool companies have far more
resources to keep developing capabilities. 


On Fri, 2009-01-30 at 10:23 -0700, John Doty wrote:
> On Jan 29, 2009, at 11:40 PM, Steve Meier wrote:
> 
> > Let us be clear on this concept. The EDA market place is in the 4 to 5
> > billion dollar range per year.
> >
> > http://www.eetimes.com/news/design/business/showArticle.jhtml? 
> > articleID=175701340
> >
> > You can do all the gorilla marketing that you want to end users who  
> > are
> > tied to the dominant tool sets, but it won't do you any good.
> 
> When Jobs and Wozniak were tinkering in that garage, the dominant  
> computer hardware was System/370. They were wise not to try to  
> compete with that.

jobs and woz used a disruptive technology (the integrated circuit) to
compete with the bigger hardware.

> 
> > If you
> > want to get these users to move to another tool set there has to be a
> > migration path and an interoperability path.
> 
> gEDA's interoperability at the netlist level is better than any other  
> thing I've seen. Nobody has solved graphical interoperability here,  
> and gEDA won't either.

geda and pcb lag far behind in interoperability with other layout
programs and with vendor support for capabilities such as programming
their flying probe testers.


> 
> >
> > The issue isn't, is geda or kicad technologically competitive  
> > tools, the
> > issue is can users move designs back and forth from the established  
> > eda
> > tools and the free tools?
> >
> > If you answer yes then you reduce the risk of the users if you  
> > answer no
> > then the safe action of the users is to stick with the tools that they
> > know.
> >
> 
> I think it's silly to think gEDA can go after the users who are  
> locked in to the big tools. gEDA's natural users are those who are  
> locked out by the high prices. Students, startups, part timers, ...
> 
> If we give people a tool that gives them the leverage to do big jobs  
> with small resources, the ones with small resources will adopt it,  
> they'll thrive, and gEDA will ride to success on their coattails.
> 

sure for isolated developers but it is far harder to work with larger
organizations that want your files in the dominant eda file formats.

Would open office be as big a player if it couldn't handle doc and xls
files?

> John Doty              Noqsi Aerospace, Ltd.
> http://www.noqsi.com/
> jpd@xxxxxxxxx
> 
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