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Re: gEDA-user: gEDA on a 512MB USB flash disk



Oh, OK.  Fair enough.  I never assume anybody is using Windoze anyway. . .  :-)

Stuart




> 
> Well with a bootable one you can plug it into a windows computer, reboot,
> and you are set to work.  With that you already need to be running linux.
> james
> 
> On 11/28/05, Stuart Brorson <sdb@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > That is cool, but it doesn't have the benefit of being able to sit down
> > at =3D
> > > a
> > > different computer and work on the same project /w the same tools which
> > is
> > > what I was envisioning.
> >
> > Ummm, unless I am missing something, Marvin's suggestion involves
> > putting both the project *and* the tools onto the flash stick.  You
> > carry the flash stick from one computer to another.  All
> > you need to make sure is to set the $PATH on each computer correctly
> > to find the gEDA Suite executables on the flash.
> >
> > Or am I missing something?
> >
> > Stuart
> >
> >
> >
> > >
> > > On 11/27/05, Marvin Dickens <marvindickens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello list,
> > > >
> > > > I've notices a few threads discussing/suggesting a gEDA bootable
> > > > distribution. Anyway, here is our senerio:
> > > >
> > > > At work, we upgraded to AMD64's and I am also running two
> > > > AMD64's at home. So, I compiled the gEDA suite of tools using
> > > > gcc 4.0 on an AMD64 machine.  Then, I installed the suite on a
> > > > 512MB thumb flash drive (Identical to how Stuarts CD installs
> > > > the gEDA suite in the home directory) we purchased for $29.00
> > > > at Office Depot. On each machine, there are entries in the .bash.rc
> > > > files that set the path to the thumb drive - The tools, libraries and
> > > > my work are stored on the thumb drive.  In fact, all the work I do
> > > > including office documents, my calender and even my email
> > > > are on the thumb drive. Everything travels with me.
> > > >
> > > > Regardless of the hardware/platform, common sense says to backup.
> > > > So, on each machine,  we use cron to execute a script throughout the
> > day
> > > > that checks to  see if the thumb drive is mounted - If it is, a backu=
> p
> > > > routine
> > > > is executed that backs up the thumb drive, encrypts the backup and
> > then
> > > > emails the backups to a server (That is backed up daily with tape...)=
> .
> > > >
> > > > This is the first portable solution that we have found that isn't
> > > > inherently
> > > > flawed (At least, for us...) or a pain to use. FWIW, it seems to me
> > that =3D
> > > a
> > > > bootable linux distro with the gEDA tools over engineers the problem
> > > > of portability and, in fact, creates more real world usability issues
> > > > than it
> > > > solves - Sure, it's a great way to introduce gEDA tools to people at
> > > > linux or
> > > > EDA user groups, but I would not want to use such an animal for real
> > work=3D
> > > .
> > > > I prefer a more universal solution such as the one I have described.
> > > >
> > > > In the future, when technology produces reliable, dirt cheap thumb
> > drives
> > > > that offer 10 gigs (Minimum...) of really fast storage I'll consider =
> a
> > > > truely portable
> > > > distribution solution. But, until then, this $29.00 solution will do.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Best regards
> > > >
> > > > Marvin
> > > >
> > >
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> > > That is cool, but it doesn't have the benefit of being able to sit down
> > > at a different computer and work on the same project /w the same tools
> > > which is what I was envisioning.<br>
> > > James<br><br><div><span class=3D3D"gmail_quote">On 11/27/05, <b
> > class=3D3D"gmai=3D
> > > l_sendername">Marvin Dickens</b> &lt;<a href=3D3D"mailto:
> > marvindickens@bellso=3D
> > > uth.net">marvindickens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote
> > class=3D
> > > =3D3D"gmail_quote" style=3D3D"border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204)=
> ;
> > margin=3D
> > > : 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
> > > Hello list,<br><br>I've notices a few threads discussing/suggesting a
> > gEDA =3D
> > > bootable<br>distribution. Anyway, here is our senerio:<br><br>At work,
> > we u=3D
> > > pgraded to AMD64's and I am also running two<br>AMD64's at home. So, I
> > comp=3D
> > > iled the gEDA suite of tools using
> > > <br>gcc 4.0 on an AMD64 machine.&nbsp;&nbsp;Then, I installed the suite
> > on =3D
> > > a<br>512MB thumb flash drive (Identical to how Stuarts CD
> > installs<br>the g=3D
> > > EDA suite in the home directory) we purchased for $29.00<br>at Office
> > Depot=3D
> > > . On each machine, there are entries in the .bash.rc
> > > <br>files that set the path to the thumb drive - The tools, libraries
> > and<b=3D
> > > r>my work are stored on the thumb drive.&nbsp;&nbsp;In fact, all the
> > work I=3D
> > >  do<br>including office documents, my calender and even my email<br>are
> > on =3D
> > > the thumb drive. Everything travels with me.
> > > <br><br>Regardless of the hardware/platform, common sense says to
> > backup.<b=3D
> > > r>So, on each machine,&nbsp;&nbsp;we use cron to execute a script
> > throughou=3D
> > > t the day<br>that checks to&nbsp;&nbsp;see if the thumb drive is mounte=
> d
> > - =3D
> > > If it is, a backup
> > > <br>routine<br>is executed that backs up the thumb drive, encrypts the
> > back=3D
> > > up and then<br>emails the backups to a server (That is backed up daily
> > with=3D
> > >  tape...).<br><br>This is the first portable solution that we have foun=
> d
> > th=3D
> > > at isn't
> > > <br>inherently<br>flawed (At least, for us...) or a pain to use. FWIW,
> > it s=3D
> > > eems to me that a<br>bootable linux distro with the gEDA tools over
> > enginee=3D
> > > rs the problem<br>of portability and, in fact, creates more real world
> > usab=3D
> > > ility issues
> > > <br>than it<br>solves - Sure, it's a great way to introduce gEDA tools
> > to p=3D
> > > eople at<br>linux or<br>EDA user groups, but I would not want to use
> > such a=3D
> > > n animal for real work.<br>I prefer a more universal solution such as
> > the o=3D
> > > ne I have described.
> > > <br><br>In the future, when technology produces reliable, dirt cheap
> > thumb =3D
> > > drives<br>that offer 10 gigs (Minimum...) of really fast storage I'll
> > consi=3D
> > > der a<br>truely portable<br>distribution solution. But, until then, thi=
> s
> > $2=3D
> > > 9.00 solution will do.
> > > <br><br><br>Best regards<br><br>Marvin<br></blockquote></div><br>
> > >
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> >
> >
> 
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> Well with a bootable one you can plug it into a windows computer,
> reboot, and you are set to work.&nbsp; With that you already need to be
> running linux.<br>
> james<br><br><div><span class=3D"gmail_quote">On 11/28/05, <b class=3D"gmai=
> l_sendername">Stuart Brorson</b> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:sdb@xxxxxxxxxx";>sdb@=
> cloud9.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"=
> border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; paddi=
> ng-left: 1ex;">
> &gt;<br>&gt; That is cool, but it doesn't have the benefit of being able to=
>  sit down at =3D<br>&gt; a<br>&gt; different computer and work on the same =
> project /w the same tools which is<br>&gt; what I was envisioning.<br><br>
> Ummm, unless I am missing something, Marvin's suggestion involves<br>puttin=
> g both the project *and* the tools onto the flash stick.&nbsp;&nbsp;You<br>=
> carry the flash stick from one computer to another.&nbsp;&nbsp;All<br>you n=
> eed to make sure is to set the $PATH on each computer correctly
> <br>to find the gEDA Suite executables on the flash.<br><br>Or am I missing=
>  something?<br><br>Stuart<br><br><br><br>&gt;<br>&gt; On 11/27/05, Marvin D=
> ickens &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:marvindickens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>marvindickens@bel=
> lsouth.net
> </a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Hello list,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; =
> &gt; I've notices a few threads discussing/suggesting a gEDA bootable<br>&g=
> t; &gt; distribution. Anyway, here is our senerio:<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt=
> ; At work, we upgraded to AMD64's and I am also running two
> <br>&gt; &gt; AMD64's at home. So, I compiled the gEDA suite of tools using=
> <br>&gt; &gt; gcc 4.0 on an AMD64 machine.&nbsp;&nbsp;Then, I installed the=
>  suite on a<br>&gt; &gt; 512MB thumb flash drive (Identical to how Stuarts =
> CD installs
> <br>&gt; &gt; the gEDA suite in the home directory) we purchased for $29.00=
> <br>&gt; &gt; at Office Depot. On each machine, there are entries in the .b=
> ash.rc<br>&gt; &gt; files that set the path to the thumb drive - The tools,=
>  libraries and
> <br>&gt; &gt; my work are stored on the thumb drive.&nbsp;&nbsp;In fact, al=
> l the work I do<br>&gt; &gt; including office documents, my calender and ev=
> en my email<br>&gt; &gt; are on the thumb drive. Everything travels with me=
> .<br>&gt; &gt;
> <br>&gt; &gt; Regardless of the hardware/platform, common sense says to bac=
> kup.<br>&gt; &gt; So, on each machine,&nbsp;&nbsp;we use cron to execute a =
> script throughout the day<br>&gt; &gt; that checks to&nbsp;&nbsp;see if the=
>  thumb drive is mounted - If it is, a backup
> <br>&gt; &gt; routine<br>&gt; &gt; is executed that backs up the thumb driv=
> e, encrypts the backup and then<br>&gt; &gt; emails the backups to a server=
>  (That is backed up daily with tape...).<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; This is =
> the first portable solution that we have found that isn't
> <br>&gt; &gt; inherently<br>&gt; &gt; flawed (At least, for us...) or a pai=
> n to use. FWIW, it seems to me that =3D<br>&gt; a<br>&gt; &gt; bootable lin=
> ux distro with the gEDA tools over engineers the problem<br>&gt; &gt; of po=
> rtability and, in fact, creates more real world usability issues
> <br>&gt; &gt; than it<br>&gt; &gt; solves - Sure, it's a great way to intro=
> duce gEDA tools to people at<br>&gt; &gt; linux or<br>&gt; &gt; EDA user gr=
> oups, but I would not want to use such an animal for real work=3D<br>&gt; .
> <br>&gt; &gt; I prefer a more universal solution such as the one I have des=
> cribed.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; In the future, when technology produces r=
> eliable, dirt cheap thumb drives<br>&gt; &gt; that offer 10 gigs (Minimum..=
> .) of really fast storage I'll consider a
> <br>&gt; &gt; truely portable<br>&gt; &gt; distribution solution. But, unti=
> l then, this $29.00 solution will do.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt=
> ; Best regards<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Marvin<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt;<br>
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> /html; charset=3DISO-8859-1<br>&gt; Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-print=
> able<br>&gt; Content-Disposition: inline<br>&gt;<br>&gt; That is cool, but =
> it doesn't have the benefit of being able to sit down
> <br>&gt; at a different computer and work on the same project /w the same t=
> ools<br>&gt; which is what I was envisioning.&lt;br&gt;<br>&gt; James&lt;br=
> &gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;div&gt;&lt;span class=3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot;&gt;On 1=
> 1/27/05, &lt;b class=3D3D&quot;gmai=3D
> <br>&gt; l_sendername&quot;&gt;Marvin Dickens&lt;/b&gt; &amp;lt;&lt;a href=
> =3D3D&quot;mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:marvindickens@bellso";>marvindickens@bel=
> lso</a>=3D<br>&gt; <a href=3D"http://uth.net";>uth.net</a>&quot;&gt;<a href=
> =3D"mailto:marvindickens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>
> marvindickens@xxxxxxxxxxxxx</a>&lt;/a&gt;&amp;gt; wrote:&lt;/span&gt;&lt;bl=
> ockquote class=3D<br>&gt; =3D3D&quot;gmail_quote&quot; style=3D3D&quot;bord=
> er-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin=3D<br>&gt; : 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8e=
> x; padding-left: 1ex;&quot;&gt;
> <br>&gt; Hello list,&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I've notices a few threads discussi=
> ng/suggesting a gEDA =3D<br>&gt; bootable&lt;br&gt;distribution. Anyway, he=
> re is our senerio:&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;At work, we u=3D<br>&gt; pgraded to A=
> MD64's and I am also running two&lt;br&gt;AMD64's at home. So, I comp=3D
> <br>&gt; iled the gEDA suite of tools using<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;gcc 4.0 on an=
>  AMD64 machine.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;Then, I installed the suite on =3D<br>&g=
> t; a&lt;br&gt;512MB thumb flash drive (Identical to how Stuarts CD installs=
> &lt;br&gt;the g=3D
> <br>&gt; EDA suite in the home directory) we purchased for $29.00&lt;br&gt;=
> at Office Depot=3D<br>&gt; . On each machine, there are entries in the .bas=
> h.rc<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;files that set the path to the thumb drive - The too=
> ls, libraries and&lt;b=3D
> <br>&gt; r&gt;my work are stored on the thumb drive.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;In =
> fact, all the work I=3D<br>&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;do&lt;br&gt;including office doc=
> uments, my calender and even my email&lt;br&gt;are on =3D<br>&gt; the thumb=
>  drive. Everything travels with me.
> <br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Regardless of the hardware/platform, common se=
> nse says to backup.&lt;b=3D<br>&gt; r&gt;So, on each machine,&amp;nbsp;&amp=
> ;nbsp;we use cron to execute a script throughou=3D<br>&gt; t the day&lt;br&=
> gt;that checks to&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;see if the thumb drive is mounted - =
> =3D
> <br>&gt; If it is, a backup<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;routine&lt;br&gt;is executed =
> that backs up the thumb drive, encrypts the back=3D<br>&gt; up and then&lt;=
> br&gt;emails the backups to a server (That is backed up daily with=3D<br>&g=
> t;&nbsp;&nbsp;tape...).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is the first portable solut=
> ion that we have found th=3D
> <br>&gt; at isn't<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;inherently&lt;br&gt;flawed (At least, f=
> or us...) or a pain to use. FWIW, it s=3D<br>&gt; eems to me that a&lt;br&g=
> t;bootable linux distro with the gEDA tools over enginee=3D<br>&gt; rs the =
> problem&lt;br&gt;of portability and, in fact, creates more real world usab=
> =3D
> <br>&gt; ility issues<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;than it&lt;br&gt;solves - Sure, it'=
> s a great way to introduce gEDA tools to p=3D<br>&gt; eople at&lt;br&gt;lin=
> ux or&lt;br&gt;EDA user groups, but I would not want to use such a=3D<br>&g=
> t; n animal for real work.&lt;br&gt;I prefer a more universal solution such=
>  as the o=3D
> <br>&gt; ne I have described.<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;In the future, wh=
> en technology produces reliable, dirt cheap thumb =3D<br>&gt; drives&lt;br&=
> gt;that offer 10 gigs (Minimum...) of really fast storage I'll consi=3D<br>
> &gt; der a&lt;br&gt;truely portable&lt;br&gt;distribution solution. But, un=
> til then, this $2=3D<br>&gt; 9.00 solution will do.<br>&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;b=
> r&gt;&lt;br&gt;Best regards&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Marvin&lt;br&gt;&lt;/blockqu=
> ote&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;br&gt;
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