[kidsgames] RE: Multiple Inteligences/SDK (fwd)

[Jeffery Douglas Waddell <jeff@smluc.org>]

Forwarding at Brian's request....

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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 09:32:44 -0400
From: Brian & Carrie Thompson <cbthomp@earthlink.net>
To: Jeffery Douglas Waddell <jeff@smluc.org>
Subject: RE: Multiple Inteligences/SDK

Jeff,
     Sorry I don't have the list I only had your address to send too. Could
you forward me the list address so I can subscribe.  Please post anything to
the list I sent you.  As for involving the parents you could have a parent
content section for every module something that is there specifically to
help the parent judge what the child will learn and give suggestion for
reinforcement.  One idea would be to describe the games and recommend other
games or activities that we perform everyday that the child could take part
in that would help the child learn the activities/skills better.  Of course
an evaluation sheet for each module could be used for some of the teaching
letter recognition, math, classification(sizes, shapes, colors.  The
evaluation of what is learned in modules involving socialization is more
difficult and those modules will have to have more parent oriented
reinforcement.  There are many great books for educating parents about
childrens behavior and I am certain that alot of those ideas can be adapted
the parent sections of the modules as well.
    Of course for the school setting it will be the teacher doing the review
and the reinforcement unless we include material for the teachers to print
out to send home that include the parents in the education.  This is one
thing about schooling vice parenting.  With schooling the child gets an
education but it isn't necessarily reinforced at home.  Distancing parents
from the education of there children is a very detrimental effect of the
current system.  Again with the SDK idea we could make it easy enough for
teachers to develop circullum of their own, and make it available to parents
via the web, and monitor multiple students all in one great program, even
allow parents to access their childrens performance at an on-line web site.
Why not dream the big dream first and try to realize the integration of
family back into education a piece at a time?  For those who want to home
school, but that are unable to develop all parts of their own circullum by
them selves the SDK modules are a "Plug and Play" option and GPL the good
modules teachers develop can be downloaded for parents to use and eventually
we can release the software with preexisting modules for parents and modules
can be continually improved/debugged by the programmers and other teachers
and parents.  GPL at its finest!
     We could develop a standardized educational system that would be used
the world over for free.  Cultural and language modules could be exchanged
country to country.  We could be developing the world wide educational
system of the future.  Knowledge and ideas are exchanged and taught the
world over why not keep that in mind while we are developing.

														Sincerely,
														Brian Thompson
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeffery Douglas Waddell [mailto:jeff@smluc.org]
> Sent: Monday, October 04, 1999 1:07 PM
> To: Brian & Carrie Thompson
> Subject: Re: Multiple Inteligences/SDK
>
>
> Hello
>
> On Sun, 3 Oct 1999, Brian & Carrie Thompson wrote:
>
> > Dear Jeff,
> >
> > > >  I think perhaps the AI
> > > > aspect and means of representing the knowledge/experiences in
> > > the software to all of the 7 intelligences (Howard Gardners
> work) should
> > be the first
> > > > milestone/discussion.
> > >
> > > I'm unfamiliar with this work, will you elabarote/summarize
> for me so I
> > > can understand what you are referring to?
> >
>
> Should this not go to the list, for everyone?
>
> >   Howard Gardners book Multiple Intelligences outlines the
> ideas that we do
> > not all learn the same things the same ways, that we have different
> > aptitudes for learning in different areas.  He isolates the
> areas in which
> > there are distinctive learning patterns/abilities.  He seperates them
> > thus:Musical Intelligence, Bodily-Kinesthetic Intelligence, Linguistic
> > Intelligence, Spatial Intelligence, Interpersonal Intelligence, and
> > Intrapersonal Intelligence.
>
> That does sound familiar.  Hmmmm.
>
> >  Although with a computer software it is
> > difficult to cater to those who will excel at the Bodily-Kinesthetic
> > Intelligence I think it would be possible with some though to develope
> > software that will develop childrens and perhaps even adults
> abilities in
> > all of these areas.
>
> This is the where skill sets would play a role, you would simple define
> skillsets for each of these "intelligience" and then mark the appropriate
> content/applications as being within that skill set.
>
> >  Adults especially are important because it is we who
> > reinforce what the children learn everyday, either positive or
> negative.  We
> > are the everyday heroes and examples that our children live by
> and look up
> > too.  If we have an adult section of the software they will
> learn what the
> > children are learning and also learn good methods of
> reiforcement, part of
> > the reason a SDK is so important.  I do think that it is a
> possibility that
> > parents will leave their children in front of the computer almost as a
> > substitute for the TV, but not spend much time with their
> children actually
> > learning what they are doing and thus not reinforcing what the children
> > learn.  Children lose interest in a lot of what they do because their
> > parents aren't really interested, example  'What did you do at school
> > today?'  'nothing'  Your child just told you they don't think you really
> > care.  Or what they learned isn't reinforced and integrated in to their
> > everyday life enough to be cared about.  Children don't develope the
> > abstract, 'this will help me out later', idea until it is later in their
> > education.
>
> agreed.
>
> >  They begin learning from doing and from using those learned
> > skills in a practical way.  That is why the parents must be
> included in the
> > software and areas of learning developed for the parents as
> well, Practical
> > Parenting ideas on ways to involve yourself in your childs education and
> > growth.
>
> Agreed, how do you propose to involve those parents?
>
> >  Knowledge, personal interaction, good health all need to be
> > included for a well rounded educational software.
>
> ok.
>
> > >
> > > > Develop the Educational SDK and then people can
> > > > develop their own educational software for the subjects in
> > > which they are
> > > > experts and if it is a good enough SDK the knowledge can be
> > > added modular
> > > > style for tailoring the education to the direction necessary.
> > >
> > > hmm, for now I'm concentrating on the KGB (Kids Game
> Builder), although we
> > > may find that we need the SDK of which you speak simply to do
> the KGB, it
> > > will depend on several things.
> > >
> >
> > If you build the SDK you could develope the software so that it
> is modular
> > with essentially the same interface, but so that you can just chage the
> > modules.
>
> Yes this is why I'm trying to get a control panel discussion going,
> because that is part I think can be dumped into an sdk fairly easily, then
> the KGB can just be an interface to picking the attributes of the control
> panel that you are going to use in the game to be designed.
>
> > Think of 'Blues Clues' it is essentially the same every show, but
> > they just drop in a different module.
>
> Don't think I've seen it, but I know what you are talking about I think.
> And I agree that content modules are a necissity.
>
> > One for music or one for stories or
> > for science.  It is the familiarity that makes it easier for
> kids to learn
> > what they will from this type of repetition.  I am not saying
> we have to be
> > as limited in content as any childrens show but if you add a
> module it can
> > have different characters, but the way the animation and music
> and voices
> > are used will be essentially the same.  All that you need to do
> is make a
> > standard tree type of format for the voice to animation and
> play the right
> > sounds with the right scene, essentially an SDK type of idea.
> >
> >
>
> Agreed, I'm hoping that this will just be a tie together of several SDK
> components that are already in place in libraries such as imlib, gtk, gdk,
> etc.
>
> 			 Sincerely,
> Yours,
>
> Jeff Waddell
> jeff@smluc.org
>
>
>
>


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