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Re: Tux Racer 0.10 Released

On 21-Mar-2000 Steve Baker wrote:
> Mads Bondo Dydensborg wrote:
>> On Sun, 19 Mar 2000, Steve Baker wrote:

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> Pingus did install cleanly once I'd tracked down appropriate versions of
> ClanLib and Hermes.  I feel that Hermes should really be a part of ClanLib
> since I've never come across a program that used Hermes without Clanlib
> or vice-versa.

both are actively maintained by different people, and I beleive hermes is used
in other libraries. It'd be nice if clanlib bundled hermes with it for release
versions, tho...


> Dunno - I agree that compilation problems are likely to scare off naive
> users - but the kind of person who might contribute seems to me to be
> more likely to persevere at least as far as asking why it doesn't compile.

I d'no, I think there are plenty of competent code hackers who simply ignore
packages that don't build right without any work. If it doesn't work
immediatly, I flush it off my system and go back to what I was doing. If it
does work, but is lacking somewhere where I can help, I start looking into the
code. If I can understand it (IE, well documented or well structured, both
would be preferable), then I see about coding. I've contributed to a couple
projects (like Xracer when it was still usable on my machine), so I guess I do
happen to be the kind of person who might contribute :) The problem is there
are a LOT of projects out there that I'm interested in. Even if a project idea
or screenshots look good, if I can't get it working, then it probably needs
more help than I can offer it and is managed by someone who can't even get a
semi-functional version out the door (both may be completely false, but that's
what goes thru my mind when I try a new program) (I haven't gotten aqfh to
work, but I haven't gotten to the point where I could give it a serious try.
The first time I looked at it, I downloaded the program, then got pissed cuz it
needed some weird library, so I pitched it. not too awefully long ago, I had
plib installed, but decided my puny little modem wouldn't hold up thru
downloading everything needed. One of these days I'll get around to it... who
knows, mebbe I can get over my bias against C++ and offer a small patch or two
some day in the far far future :)

assuming that everyone capable of contributing will fight through a broken make
to get it up and running at first might be dismissing most of the people that
could help... :/ fixing steves busted dist is nowhere near as fun as seeing my
improvement... sorry *shrug* :)

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