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Re: Kernel


That's why I generally only run VA kernels, unless I have a *really* good
reason not to.  Maybe I'm just used to being on the bleeding edge (and
getting cut a few times!) that it doesn't bother me so much.  I've yet to
be able to compile a kernel and it give me problems.  Maybe I'm lucky.

The last non-VA kernel is the 2.0.36 kernel on Vodka (101 days uptime)
which is the software RAID patch which I'm sure you can imagine is pretty
significant.  No problems so far (crossing fingers, eyes, and toes!).

Actually, the real trick is to not be the first person to install a patch
and run with it.  If after 5 days you haven't heard anyone scream in
terror, you're basically good to go.  That and get your patches from
people know know their shit, unless you're Mr. Kernel and care to read and
understand the patch yourself.

Of course YMMV.

On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Spencer Portee wrote:

> this scares me.. I'm not trying to argue bsd kernel stuff either.  But
> like, I remember trying to apply a patch to a patched system and like
> borked the code (not a kernel).  I just wound up downloading a fresh set..
> 
> 
> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Aaron Turner wrote:
> 
> moo> 
> moo> The VA patches are a superset of the RH patches.  Hence you can VA and
> moo> get one stop shopping for Linus + Red Hat (Alan Cox + others) + VA kernel.
> moo> 
> moo> 
> moo> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Spencer Portee wrote:
> moo> 
> moo> > yeah, but what if you need something under both kernels?  isn't it
> moo> > possible for the patches to flail...er..fail?
> moo> > 
> moo> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Aaron Turner wrote:
> moo> > 
> moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> No, you can go to ftp.redhat.com or ftp.valinux.com and download their
> moo> > moo> patches/patched kernels.  This is unlike the BSD license which would not
> moo> > moo> require that they release their code.  (or so I understand)
> moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Spencer Portee wrote:
> moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > this was the answer I was looking for.  That (the splitting up in ra and
> moo> > moo> > va) is a bad thing, no?  I mean now people will have to buy redhat linux
> moo> > moo> > instead of leenux.
> moo> > moo> > 
> moo> > moo> > On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Aaron Turner wrote:
> moo> > moo> > 
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> /me realized that he didn't competely answer the question...
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> 2.2.12-6 is the 6th iteration of the Red Hat 6.1 kernel which is based on
> moo> > moo> > moo> 2.2.12.  RH and VA like to tweak the kernel a little bit for various
> moo> > moo> > moo> reasons.
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> VA actually bases their kernels on the RH kernels.  I don't really konw
> moo> > moo> > moo> what RH does to them, but I know VA adds patches so that the kernel runs
> moo> > moo> > moo> better on their hardware (often the lastest DAC960 or SymBios driver
> moo> > moo> > moo> doesn't make it into the lastest stable kernel).
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> On Fri, 29 Oct 1999, Spencer Portee wrote:
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> > moo> Well I looked at the 2.2.13 readme, and looks like there are a number of
> moo> > moo> > moo> > moo> fixes that are applicable to us (networking, security, and SMP) that the
> moo> > moo> > moo> > moo> stock 2.2.12 kernel doesn't have.  I know the 2.2.12-6 kernel on VA's site
> moo> > moo> > moo> > moo> is based on a pre-RH 6.1 kernel, so I'm pretty certain that it doesn't
> moo> > moo> > moo> > moo> have the fixes.
> moo> > moo> > moo> > 
> moo> > moo> > moo> > how many kernels ARE there??  I thoguth it was just the splitting up of
> moo> > moo> > moo> > the beta and stable, but what are these others?
> moo> > moo> > moo> > 
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > moo> --
> moo> > moo> > moo> Aaron Turner, Core Developer       http://vodka.linuxkb.org/~aturner/
> moo> > moo> > moo> Linux Knowledge Base Organization  http://linuxkb.org/
> moo> > moo> > moo> Because world domination requires quality open documentation.
> moo> > moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> > 
> moo> > moo> 
> moo> > moo> --
> moo> > moo> Aaron Turner, Core Developer       http://vodka.linuxkb.org/~aturner/
> moo> > moo> Linux Knowledge Base Organization  http://linuxkb.org/
> moo> > moo> Because world domination requires quality open documentation.
> moo> > moo> 
> moo> > 
> moo> 
> moo> --
> moo> Aaron Turner, Core Developer       http://vodka.linuxkb.org/~aturner/
> moo> Linux Knowledge Base Organization  http://linuxkb.org/
> moo> Because world domination requires quality open documentation.
> moo> 
> 

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