On Mon, Apr 24, 2006 at 12:42:59PM -0400, Roger Dingledine wrote: > Some companies selling "vservers" give you enough file descriptors, > but they limit the buffer space to some very small amount. > > This trend is not a coincidence -- the goal of the vserver scam is to > sell you something that you think will work and then it turns out to Ahem. As someone who's planning to sell solutions based on raw and cooked vservers I hope I'm not resembling that remark. > have lots of weird artificial limits. You could try asking "Can I run a > popular website from this account?", but it likely won't be that easy, > because many support people either don't understand that vservers are > a scam, or they are in on it themselves. I don't see why vservers are a scam. Costs for a hoster are power and traffic. If you can stick some 200-400 virtual machines into 1 U for a ~250 W power print the hoster can clearly save money on space and power. That's why vservers are cheaper than physical servers. They need not to have limitations, if implemented properly. > Now, vserver accounts are fine if you just want to log in and read your > mail or something. So they do have a use. The problem is that the people > who market them make a point of not being clear about what they can and > can't do. I see no problem with a customer running Tor as long as they pay for the traffic. If the CPU load is considerable, it may ask for a beefier host, which would put it into a slightly more expensive class (say, 10$ instead of 5$). Of course you can get a flat rodet physical server for some 30 EUR/month, but these are definitely scams. -- Eugen* Leitl <a href="http://leitl.org";>leitl</a> http://leitl.org ______________________________________________________________ ICBM: 48.07100, 11.36820 http://www.ativel.com 8B29F6BE: 099D 78BA 2FD3 B014 B08A 7779 75B0 2443 8B29 F6BE
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