Re: [tor-talk] tor-talk Digest, Vol 19, Issue 7

[anu nivas <anupama.2312.bmsit@xxxxxxxxx>]

Hello,

I have used Tor as a client and notice that each time I refresh my page, my
IP Address is shown as a different one. I would like to know how these IP
Addresses are assigned

Thank You
Anupama

Message: 4
>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 19:24:09 +0200
>> From: "Sebastian G. <bastik.tor>" <bastik.tor@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] how does Tor generate IP Address
>> Message-ID: <501AB7B9.6070502@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
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>>
>> anu nivas:
>> > Hello,
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I hope I understand you correctly.
>>
>>
>> > I would like to know how IP addresses are generated by Tor.
>>
>> Tor doesn't generate IP addresses. You, the client, connect to an entry
>> node, which sees your IP address (but does not know where you want to
>> connect to), from there you connect to another node, which does not know
>> where the traffic is originally coming from and where it's going to;
>> from there you connect to an exit, which extends the circuit to the
>> destination. (The exit knows where the traffic goes to, but not know who
>> you are, it does know you IP).
>>
>> The destination will see the IP address of the exit node instead of your
>> IP address. The exit IP address has been assigned by the ISP.
>>
>>
>> > If I use Tor ,
>> > is there a chance that my IP address would be assigned as proxy address
>> of
>> > another Tor client?
>>
>> When you run Tor as a client only, the answer is no. "Run as a client
>> only." (default for the TorBrowserBundle, at least)
>>
>> You can, however, relay traffic.
>>
>> "Relay traffic inside the Tor network (non-exit relay)" would make you
>> an entry node and a middle node. Other clients connect to you and you
>> relay traffic to middle nodes. You relay traffic from entry nodes to
>> exit-nodes. Your IP address never "appears" on a destination, you never
>> connect to anything else as the Tor network itself. Please note that
>> your IP address will be listed in public. (That's how Tor works.)
>>
>> Would require you to be online for a very long time.
>>
>> "Relay traffic for the Tor network (exit relay)" would make you relay
>> traffic within the Tor network and connect to destinations. Then your IP
>> address "appears" on such destination.
>>
>> Would require uptime and high bandwidth. It's not recommended to run an
>> exit node on an residential connection. Plus it's not recommended unless
>> you understand the consequences.
>>
>> "Help censored users reach the Tor network" (aka Bridge) would make you
>> run a "hidden" entry node which IP address is not public. (Censored)
>> users request access to the Tor network and get your bridge address,
>> which contains your IP address to reach the network. Your IP address is
>> revealed to such users and of course the node you relay the traffic to
>> sees your IP address as well, but it could think you are a client,
>> because your IP address is not listed in public. You don't make
>> connections, outside the Tor network, for clients.
>>
>> This relaying mode (Bridge mode) requires being online for a couple of
>> hours. Bandwidth is not important.
>>
>> > Thank You
>> > Anupama
>>
>> I hope I could help you.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sebastian
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 5
>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 12:33:25 -0500
>> From: Joe Btfsplk <joebtfsplk@xxxxxxx>
>> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] how does Tor generate IP Address
>> Message-ID: <501AB9E5.9050709@xxxxxxx>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 8/2/2012 11:07 AM, anu nivas wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> >
>> > I would like to know how IP addresses are generated by Tor. If I use
>> Tor ,
>> > is there a chance that my IP address would be assigned as proxy address
>> of
>> > another Tor client?
>> If you mean, a chance that your REAL ISP - assigned address; assigned to
>> your router / acct, when you're computer is connected to your ISP's
>> network - then answer is no.
>> Your real ISP would never be assigned by a Tor node (server) because
>> they use ranges of IP addresses of their own.
>>
>> If you're asking if > 1 Tor user could be assigned the same exit IP
>> address at same time, the answer is yes.
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 6
>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 21:44:13 +0200
>> From: antispam06@xxxxxxx
>> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?
>> Message-ID:
>>         <
>> 1343936653.4432.140661109960669.371347AD@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>> Content-Type: text/plain
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 2, 2012, at 04:17, grarpamp wrote:
>> > > Riseup has been recommend by (imho) trustworthy and honest people.
>> > I'm happy with other comon non-gmail free providers. RiseUp
>> > is cool/important so I'd not use them unless I had to and could
>> > donate.
>>
>> I had the same feeling when I first heard of them. While I tell my
>> friends that they could use Tor for anything, say checking their Yahoo
>> mail on an open Wifi, and that helps both generate harmless traffic on
>> Tor and tell Yahoo some people value their privacy at the same time.
>> With Riseup it's about using it when needed. Also keep in mind there are
>> alternatives to Riseup, and I don't think of FB or Google, yet there are
>> no alternatives to Tor at the moment.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> Message: 7
>> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 16:19:55 -0500
>> From: Joe Btfsplk <joebtfsplk@xxxxxxx>
>> To: tor-talk@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>> Subject: Re: [tor-talk] anyone created an acct on GMX using Tor?
>> Message-ID: <501AEEFB.7080306@xxxxxxx>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>>
>> On 8/1/2012 9:17 PM, grarpamp wrote:
>> >> Riseup has been recommend by (imho) trustworthy and honest people.
>> > RiseUp is that place that makes you fill out *why* you want
>> > one of their free accounts, your activism. What do you guys put in
>> there?
>> > Can you just leave it blank? Or say 'not applicable',
>> > no reason, unspecified. Do you have to say 'anonymous',
>> > research, education, personal use? Or tell them of
>> > your love of dogs?
>> >
>> > I'm happy with other comon non-gmail free providers. RiseUp
>> > is cool/important so I'd not use them unless I had to and could
>> > donate.
>> >
>> >
>> > If you do not use the invite method, please tell us about your
>> > activism. Do not include acronyms or personally identifiable
>> > information. This information will be destroyed as soon as your
>> > account is approved.
>> > wait for us to approve your request.
>> >
>> Thanks.  Riseup says they don't store IP addresses or log emails. If
>> (for a company in U.S.) the gov't will even ALLOW that, then that's good
>> - as almost all provider say they log to some extent. BUT... considering
>> ISPs, wireless providers, Skype - on & on - are being "forced" into
>> either keeping records, that can be demanded w/ very little reason from
>> an LEA, or are being strong armed into providing backdoors, I at least *
>> question * whether one mail provider (onshore, in U.S.) can resist the
>> long arm of the law.
>>
>> I may be wrong.  But, as most know, just because a company makes claims,
>> doesn't mean they're true.
>>
>> 2nd, I can't find anywhere - w/o signing up - what Riseup's general
>> "starting" storage quota or max message and / or attachment size limits
>> are, even using search engines.
>> I understand IF they don't make $ off advertising, they need it from
>> other sources (donations).  But, their suggested "individual" donation
>> of $5 - 15 / mo & for businesses, 1% of annual budget (Ex.:  $100 for
>> $10K budget) seems lopsided.  A business / organization will generate
>> way more traffic than (especially) me. But, I don't know what I'd get
>> for $5 / mo, even if I liked them, unless I sign up or another user
>> tells me.
>>
>> Re:  GMX & Tor address problem.  GMX responded to request I sent about
>> not being able to sign up w/ Tor - at my organization (wink). They
>> request on their site to include the IP you're having problems
>> registering with, so I gave the (current) Tor IP.  They said,
>> > Dear GMX Customer,
>> >
>> > This IP address has been marked in a blacklist. Even if it changes we
>> > recommend you to create an account from another computer or to contact
>> > your internet provider.
>> So, big surprise, lots of people are using Tor addresses & then doing
>> crap to give it (certain addresses, anyway) a bad name & get blacklisted.
>> Question:  was mentioned about using Tor to access Yahoo mail.
>> Certainly, you can't OPEN a Gmail acct w/ Tor w/o giving mobile #, 1st
>> born son, etc.  Can't sign up for GMX w/ Tor.
>>
>> Why would Yahoo allow using Tor?  Or, is it that the acct was NOT
>> created using Tor, but later accessing it via Tor - * as antispam06
>> mentioned * ?  (not sure exactly what he meant)  What would that
>> accomplish, for anonymity?  If you didn't create the acct w/ Tor (or
>> proxy), they know the real IP address of the owner.  Thanks.
>>
>>
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