Re: [tor-talk] TOR bundle on hostile platforms: why?

[Ralf-Philipp Weinmann <ralf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

On Aug 7, 2013, at 9:06 PM, Ivan Zaigralin wrote:

>> Using Tor protects you against a common form of Internet surveillance known
>> as "traffic analysis."
> 
> It doesn't, since Microsoft can survey all outgoing and incoming
> traffic in plain text.
> 
>> Tor also makes it possible for users to hide their locations while offering
>> various kinds of services, such as web publishing or an instant messaging
>> server.
> 
> On the contrary, Microsoft has the capability to survey all Windows-powered TOR
> nodes and make a complete table of who is hosting what.
> 
>> As Tor's usability increases, it will attract more users, which will increase
>> the possible sources and destinations of each communication, thus increasing
>> security for everyone.
> 
> Each Windows host added to the network is a TOR node which is directly under
> control of Microsoft. Thus adding more Windows hosts decreases the security
> for everyone.

Hi Ivan,

may I ask what you base these claims on exactly? The capability of Microsoft to perform auto-updates or is there anything else?

If we're talking about auto updates, you have the same problem with essentially every Linux distro that you don't audit and compile yourself.

If not, I'd love to hear what angle you're going for here.

Cheers,
Ralf

p.s.: I'm a reverse-engineer. the argument "you get binaries, not source code" doesn't convince me.
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